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Cameraman asks multiple people the simple question "Would you die for Ireland?" and gauges the responses.

An interesting insight into the mind of the average person on the street. Quite your expected Oirish begrudgery from some more older people. But also a good lot of young lads who immediately say "Yes", without hesitation or prompt. Of course the question isn't given with context, so it'd mean different things to different people, but people's interpretations of the question are equally as interesing as their answers to me. Some obviously interpret is as "die for the current government", whereas others obviously see it as "die for the nation".

Also interesting to note Bertie Ahern at 4:00 mealy-mouthing in his answer, an Irish Taoiseach who wouldn't even unreservedly say he'd be willing to pay the ultimate sacrifice for his country is no leader.
 
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Oooooh I cud tell ya blood curdlin stories...
 

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The 1916 patriots died for Ireland.
Look what happened!

"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel!"

You have only one short life. It is a wonderful opportunity.
You should not allow yourself to be conned by anyone into throwing it away lightly.

 

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The 1916 patriots died for Ireland.
Look what happened!

"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel!"

You have only one short life. It is a wonderful opportunity.
You should not allow yourself to be conned by anyone into throwing it away lightly.

The only reason there are still a few human beings left in Ireland is because those noble men and women shed their sacred blood for our nation. Otherwise we'd all be bottom feeding vermin like Varadkar and Colm O'Gorman.
 

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Cameraman asks multiple people the simple question "Would you die for Ireland?" and gauges the responses.

An interesting insight into the mind of the average person on the street. Quite your expected Oirish begrudgery from some more older people. But also a good lot of young lads who immediately say "Yes", without hesitation or prompt. Of course the question isn't given with context, so it'd mean different things to different people, but people's interpretations of the question are equally as interesing as their answers to me. Some obviously interpret is as "die for the current government", whereas others obviously see it as "die for the nation".

Also interesting to note Bertie Ahern at 4:00 mealy-mouthing in his answer, an Irish Taoiseach who wouldn't even unreservedly say he'd be willing to pay the ultimate sacrifice for his country is no leader.


At this point in time what's needed is men and women to live and win for Ireland. We must be ruthless in the face of the enemy. It's the enemy who must die - must be exterminated.
 

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The only reason there are still a few human beings left in Ireland is because those noble men and women shed their sacred blood for our nation. Otherwise we'd all be bottom feeding vermin like Varadkar and Colm O'Gorman.

According to you no voters, 70% of us already are anyway! LOLlllllllllllll

I lament the utter waste of a man like James Connolly who could have been the driver of real change
in some pointless and futile violence going nowhere.

What use was he dead?
 
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At this point in time what's needed is men and women to live and win for Ireland. We must be ruthless in the face of the enemy. It's the enemy who must die - must be exterminated.

"It is not those who can inflict the most, but those that can suffer the most who will conquer", Terence MacSwiney
 

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According to you no voters, 70% of us already are anyway! LOLlllllllllllll

I lament the utter waste of a man like James Connolly who could have been the driver of real change
in some pointless and futile violence going nowhere.

What use was he dead?


Ireland lost its best in the 1916 Rising, and the rest of the good men and women in the Tan War and the Civil War.
 

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"It is not those who can inflict the most, but those that can suffer the most who will conquer", Terence MacSwiney


I don't believe that's true. The enemy just wears us down, little by little, year by year - until finally, we agree ourselves to eat our own young.
 
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Cameraman asks multiple people the simple question "Would you die for Ireland?" and gauges the responses.

An interesting insight into the mind of the average person on the street. Quite your expected Oirish begrudgery from some more older people. But also a good lot of young lads who immediately say "Yes", without hesitation or prompt. Of course the question isn't given with context, so it'd mean different things to different people, but people's interpretations of the question are equally as interesing as their answers to me. Some obviously interpret is as "die for the current government", whereas others obviously see it as "die for the nation".

Also interesting to note Bertie Ahern at 4:00 mealy-mouthing in his answer, an Irish Taoiseach who wouldn't even unreservedly say he'd be willing to pay the ultimate sacrifice for his country is no leader.
Dev lamass etc put their lifes on the line for Ireland.they certainly were not as revolutionary in their political careers but they were 50 times more patriotic than Bertie ever was.
 
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I don't believe that's true. The enemy just wears us down, little by little, year by year - until finally, we agree ourselves to eat our own young.

I think there's much to be said about being able to take it. The first thing you learn when you start boxing is to expect to be hit, and to learn to absorb the hits and fight on anyway. I think that's one of the most important things we need to learn for nationalist politics, determination and perseverance and the ability to take hits and keep on the fight. Obviously I wouldn't endorse arbitrary or tokenistic defeats, sometimes you need to make a tactical retreat in order to fight another day.
 

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I think there's much to be said about being able to take it. The first thing you learn when you start boxing is to expect to be hit, and to learn to absorb the hits and fight on anyway. I think that's one of the most important things we need to learn for nationalist politics, determination and perseverance and the ability to take hits and keep on the fight. Obviously I wouldn't endorse arbitrary or tokenistic defeats, sometimes you need to make a tactical retreat in order to fight another day.


True, but we have enough martyrs. Now we need to start grinding the enemy down without mercy.
 
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