'Why I'm happy I gave birth to my rapist's baby' - Brave woman on her unimaginable choice

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Very encouraging to see a story like this in the Indo, credit to them where credit is due. Great read too, and a lovely story.

Also, if there’s a general thread on the abortion topic, can someone link me to it, I’d probably just have put this in there.

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"A woman has said that she knows giving birth to her rapist's baby was the right choice for her as "something positive has come from this."

Laura Ni Chonghaile (66) was date-raped on a work trip by a colleague in 1977 and has now opened up about her tough decision about whether to keep her baby."

'Why I'm happy I gave birth to my rapist's baby' - Brave woman on her unimaginable choice - Independent.ie
 

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Very encouraging to see a story like this in the Indo, credit to them where credit is due. Great read too, and a lovely story.

Also, if there’s a general thread on the abortion topic, can someone link me to it, I’d probably just have put this in there.

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"A woman has said that she knows giving birth to her rapist's baby was the right choice for her as "something positive has come from this."

Laura Ni Chonghaile (66) was date-raped on a work trip by a colleague in 1977 and has now opened up about her tough decision about whether to keep her baby."

'Why I'm happy I gave birth to my rapist's baby' - Brave woman on her unimaginable choice - Independent.ie

Fair play to her for keeping her baby and for speaking out. It's magnificent women like these that the Trot vermin are using violence to try to intimidate into silence.
 
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Yes, precisely the sort who got us to where we are now.
With respect to her father, she never told him she’d been raped, so he was presumably working on the assumption that she was having premarital sex, something that was frowned upon for many reasons at the time. Ireland has arguably gone done hill for embracing the lifestyle that he was against, so it would be hard for me to see our problems being due to the likes of him.

Overall though, for such great families to have come out of such a horrible event, really is remarkable, and is an inspiration for all people facing the worst of hardships in Ireland today.

It opened my eyes too to the idea of adoption in these cases, for some reason I hadn’t thought enough about that. I’d have tended to be on the side of being for abortion in cases of rape, and tbh I’d say I still am, the morning after pill for sure. That sort of violation isn’t something I can contemplate, or feel I’d have the right to have a strong opinion counter to the woman's desire. But again, this story just shows what’s possible even in the worst cases, and clearly she’s a more content woman today having dealt with it the way she did. And no doubt her daughter agrees.
 

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With respect to her father, she never told him she’d been raped, so he was presumably working on the assumption that she was having premarital sex, something that was frowned upon for many reasons at the time. Ireland has arguably gone done hill for embracing the lifestyle that he was against, so it would be hard for me to see our problems being due to the likes of him.

Overall though, for such great families to have come out of such a horrible event, really is remarkable, and is an inspiration for all people facing the worst of hardships in Ireland today.

It opened my eyes too to the idea of adoption in these cases, for some reason I hadn’t thought enough about that. I’d have tended to be on the side of being for abortion in cases of rape, and tbh I’d say I still am, the morning after pill for sure. That sort of violation isn’t something I can contemplate, or feel I’d have the right to have a strong opinion counter to the woman's desire. But again, this story just shows what’s possible even in the worst cases, and clearly she’s a more content woman today having dealt with it the way she did. And no doubt her daughter agrees.

I think the particular shit mess we're in now started with the post WW2 generation in Europe, so he would be very much part of all that. But even before that, Ireland had become a place where the majority couldn't afford to get married and settle down, and yet were denied sexual contact. That was a criminally insane social structure, and I believe that criminal insanity led directly to the criminal insanity we have today where the majority of young people still can't afford to marry and settle down - but are encouraged to regard sexuality as a throw-a-way commodity - abortion to be the safety valve.
 
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I think the particular shit mess we're in now started with the post WW2 generation in Europe, so he would be very much part of all that. But even before that, Ireland had become a place where the majority couldn't afford to get married and settle down, and yet were denied sexual contact. That was a criminally insane social structure, and I believe that criminal insanity led directly to the criminal insanity we have today where the majority of young people still can't afford to marry and settle down - but are encouraged to regard sexuality as a throw-a-way commodity - abortion to be the safety valve.
You said he was 'precisely the sort' who got us into this mess, I just don’t see how you’re coming to that conclusion.

We've all been a part of the generation that watched and accepted our total cultural destruction, and also watched as our democratic will was pissed on twice.

Does that make us precisely the sort who got us into this mess?

Tbh, it probably does, because other than pissing and moaning about it on the internet, or arguing about it over a few pints, we’ve collectively done fuck all to stop it. So we’re probably just as guilty or as innocent as her father was.
 
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For FUCKS sake lads!!

What you are advocating is a rapists charter

Rapists can just rape any woman and be rewarded in a very fundamental darwinian sense
by having their rapist spawn, with any woman of their choice, get to walk the earth and continue their rapist sociopathic line
into the future.

Rapist's babies should never be allowed to be born.

And what happens when all the muslim immigrants you all hate start raping all our Irish women??
Should their rapist spawn be allowed to walk the earth as a reward for their crimes too?

Abortion should be allowed in the case of rape with no exceptions.
 
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For FUCKS sake lads!!

What you are advocating is a rapists charter

Rapists can just rape any woman and be rewarded in a very fundamental darwinian sense
by having their rapist spawn, with any woman of their choice, get to walk the earth and continue their rapist sociopathic line
into the future.

Rapist's babies should never be allowed to be born.

And what happens when all the muslim immigrants you all hate start raping all our Irish women??
Should their rapist spawn be allowed to walk the earth as a reward for their crimes too?

Abortion should be allowed in the case of rape with no exceptions.
A prohibition on abortion reduces the chance of women getting exploited as free abortion allows serial rapists and abusers to perpetuate their abuse for longer whilst destroying the consequence of their action. You can also ensure that the rapists never learns that the woman has a child.

Notwithstanding the injustice of slaughtering an entirely innocent baby that has done nothing wrong and the implications of forced abortion on an already brutalised woman, you should not add to the victim tally of the rapist. The rapist should not have that satisfaction.
 
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