How many of these "scholars" have a dog in the fight?
As to whether a historical Jesus figure existed or not, I'm agnostic.
But the Canonical gospels are without a shadow of a doubt a work of allegorical fiction, quite possibly originating as the core text of a Jewish mystery religion.
Have a listen to this.
Richard Carrier is a very serious scholar who thoroughly debunks the horse manure that passes for orthodox scholarship on the matter.
(Starts at 14:30)
The problem with this kind of thread is that it invariably attracts the Richard Dawkins fanboy types who really, really want people to know just how much they despise religion. Any attempt at discussion is buried under a tidal wave of smug hectoring and sneering.
On the plus side, most of them will be limited in their posting once the schools open up again.
Beyond the empty futile insults you throw around here, can you back any of this up with an actual argument?
Otherwise we'll consider it your opinion, and ignore it.
It's all a con. There is no afterlife.
Now off you go and treat this actual life you are living as the only one you will ever have.
My xmas gift to you. Some basic reality. You're welcome!![]()
There will be alot of needless death and suffering in Ireland next year.all the stories in the bible were written by brainwashed loonies. And its all propaganda.
Discuss
all the stories in the bible were written by brainwashed loonies. And its all propaganda.
Discuss
The problem with this kind of thread is that it invariably attracts the Richard Dawkins fanboy types who really, really want people to know just how much they despise religion. Any attempt at discussion is buried under a tidal wave of smug hectoring and sneering.
On the plus side, most of them will be limited in their posting once the schools open up again.
Richard Carrier is a clown pretending to be an academic playing to an audience who loves his act because it enables them to dodge the truth.
I have no idea, but scholarly historical publications, like scientific publications are peer reviewed, are they not? So, I'd expect scholarly submissions on the historicity of JC to have been peer reviewed by qualified, competent Biblical and NT scholars. As I've said the consensus is that Jesus existed. That might annoy you (and others), and I'm sorry that it does, but.....well, life goes on?
Do you have any evidence to support this? Again, peer reviewed scholarly articles would help.
I'll listen to it later, but I get the feeling that Carrier is talking horse manure....
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Richard Carrier - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Incidentally does Carrier have a "dog in this fight"?