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Why are we angry with (illegal) immigrants?

ShumanTheHuman

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While Jimmy Dore correctly point out the extent of socialism in American and the inevitability of it being integral to any advanced mixed economy society he shy's away from the key factor in why and how socialistic solutions work in such environments: trust. He correctly tells his audience not to blame immigrants on falling wages but on the capitalists who import them. But the likes of Jimmy will convince themselves that more immigrants will mean more left politics despite all the evidence of the shit show it entails

But it's good to see the progs are reverting to old school leftism - in this case anyway

Keith Woods spells out the importance of this with his usual brilliance
 
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Not even one token commentator sceptical on whether or not mass immigration is in the Irish people's interest is allowed in the Irish media. This is North Korean territory.
Maybe because there isn't mass immigration into ireland, very manageable numbers and one of the hardest countries to claim asylum in.
 

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Maybe because there isn't mass immigration into ireland, very manageable numbers and one of the hardest countries to claim asylum in.

Largest demographic change since the plantation of Ulster and yet we don't even have a single media commentator critical of it. Not even a " maybe we should think about this one" or even a "let's fix our homeless and hospital trolley crisis". This is not normal.
 

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If you think the trolley crisis and housing crisis is the fault of migrants then you're seriously delusional.
 

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Maybe because there isn't mass immigration into ireland, very manageable numbers and one of the hardest countries to claim asylum in.

18% of our population foreign born. Highest in Europe. Only a landlord Gombeenman would find that manageable.
 

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If you think the trolley crisis and housing crisis is the fault of migrants then you're seriously delusional.

Population increased by 18% in less than 15 years with no additional investment in health and housing. Only a landlord Gombeenman would try to claim that flooding Ireland with a million migrants has no effect on demand for housing and health care.
 

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I have to get this story out of my system. Excuse the rant.

I’ve worked with countless immigrants over the past fifteen years and my experience is that they just don’t have much regard for this country. Now plenty of Irish don’t have much regard for this country but there’s a core group of us that do and this keeps the whole thing together.

One personal experience has really brought home the truth of the matter to me. For a few years I worked in a factory where certain sections were majority foreign and I’d often go a full day not hearing any English spoken apart from the girl on the till in the canteen. I became friendly with a Nigerian fella on account of the fact that none of us could speak Polish so we had no one else to talk to. I worked night shifts with him and got to know him pretty well as there are points in the middle of the night where you have to stop working and talk to someone to keep yourself awake. The kinda stuff you talk about tends to be frank and personal at that hour rather than merely football and the weather. He told me about how he got into the country and his situation back home (well-off family who somehow managed to get British citizenship and so he ended up in Ireland). I even came clean with him that I was no fan of mass-immigration and he sort of saw my side of things. I thought he was a decent sort, not a bad worker but always had some get-rich-quick scheme on the side. He took a few months off, once, to go over to London and work as a limousine driver for premier league stars (this didn’t bring in the money he thought it would and he came back looking sorry). He ended up marrying a Nigerian woman despite telling me for years that he wouldn’t go near them. She got pregnant and began telling him of her dreams of the high-life – trips to New York, Caribbean cruises ect. He started sweating and the schemes became more bizarre. I moved on from that place and the last thing I heard about him was that his wife had gotten a big job in Canada and he was going to follow over. A few days ago I bumped into an old work colleague and I asked about my old Nigerian friend only to get a look and a ‘Didn’t you hear!?!’ It turns out that this Nigerian guy lodged a fraudulent cheque into his account for €50k and then transferred it into another account and then skipped the country. Apparently, the bank is still chasing the money and the man but are unlikely to get either. I’m not sure why, but it hurt me personally like a punch in the balls.

He was the nicest Nigerian I’ve ever met, but he was still here first and foremost for material gain and it’s very difficult to run a country when so many of the inhabitants are foreigners lured by high wages and dreams of making big money; we’re effectively becoming one big Klondike and the fabric of society will evaporate if this keeps up. If you travel up and down the west coast you’ll meet a few Germans and Brits who came here to make organic jam and paint Atlantic sunsets but outside of that the average immigrant is just a bee that followed the honey.
We don’t live in a country , we haven’t lived in a country since 2004 ,
In a country being indigenous means something
Having roots going back hundreds of years means something
A population that grow organically always have something in common
From one end of the country to the other.

Since 2004 and the advent of free movement we are an industrial estate
An industrial estate on the edge of Europe with a lax low tax regime for transnational companies
In this industrial estate all that matters is how much profit can be made out of you
Being indigenous means nothing to the transnationals , you are just a number
They don’t care that your grandfather sweated to try to build a future for his children’s children
In their homeland along with their indigenous countrymen , good and bad,
No all they care about is how much they can extract from each unit of labour foreign or indigenous
They are all the same to them units if labour to be played off against each other
And the migrants who come here care not a whit for Irish history or people
They are coming to an industrial estate and that’s exactly how they treat it
Get what you can out of it by fair means or foul , they haven’t a clue about Irish history
I know many very well,they can’t believe irishpeople had to leave this country to find work
Nor do they care, this is what globalization does, pit the worker against worker fir the benefit
Of 5he local gombeens and multi national masters
 

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Do you think it's normal that we don't even have one token critic of immigration in the Irish media?
Don’t waste your time replying to him, he is not interested in debate
He is only here to antagonize and disrupt
He is the equivalent of a digital Antifa
Impossible to reason with
And cowardly to boot
 
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