What's REALLY going on in Hong Kong

Yonghoi

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Since last March there have been massive ongoing protests in Hong Kong, ostensibly to counter the Hong Kong Governments attempt to push through an Extradition Bill with Mainland China. People in Hong Kong are indeed afraid of the threat that they could be lifted and sent to China for trial on any trivial matter the CCP wants to punish them for. There have been previous cases of anti-CCP Hong Kong book publishers being kidnapped and later re-emerging over in the Mainland after weeks of unexplained absence. They were seemingly being treated to some 're-education' by the commies.

In May the protests began to get more physical, with scuffles between pro and anti Beijing legislature members. The heat spread onto the streets, and culminated in a mass protest breaking into the Chamber of the Legislature and vandalising it.

Carrie Lam - the Beijing appointed Chief Executive - had to come out and say the Extradition Bill is 'shelved' after that. But the people are not satisfied this is the end of it, and they continue their protests, and calls for her to resign.

Beijing is so far sitting on the sidelines, not getting overtly involved, though of course they are manipulating the response of the Lam government behind the scenes. But what can they do? They have 'killed the Bill' (for now), but the protests continue - and indeed are strengthening. Regular confrontations are causing embarrassment to the CCP, challenging their control of what they insist is an integral part of China, even though with a degree of autonomy.
There are probably those elements in the CCP who want to see a crackdown. To see the PLA come out of their garrisons and enforce Martial Law. But the outcome of that could be devastating for Hong Kong, and cause even greater trouble on the World stage.
But just sitting on their hands is becoming harder with every confrontation and provocation. They are losing face, and their power is being challenged.
What do the people want?
What will make them cool down?
Is all of this violence and anger merely over a dead Extradition Bill?

Anyone who really knows Hong Kong is well aware that this is just the last straw for the people, and that a tsunami of anger has been building for years. It was first manifested three years ago with the pro-Democracy 'Occupy Central' movement, which briefly looked like it would create an uprising, but eventually fizzled out.
This new manifestation seems to have longer legs, and is beginning to resemble the Gilets Jaune protests in France.
The truth is the Bill is just the spark that finally ignited the powder keg.
Life in Hong Kong, for ordinary people, has become worse and worse in the last decade. The cost of living has soared. Property values have risen 300%. The youth of Hong Kong cannot afford to buy a home, get married, and have a family. They see no future - and the government is walking hand in hand with the Tycoons who run and own Hong Kong. It's quite a sight to see the Communists in Government sucking up to the most avaricious of Capitalists, who are bleeding the people dry, and destroying the fabric of their society. Big Business own half the legislature - there is no democratic suffrage, the whole place is simply set up to enrich a handful of super rich people, while the rest are left to rot. It's Orwells Animal Farm come to life.

Here's an excellent article, which prompted me to write this post. It's the first mainstream media piece I've seen which looks past the superficial Extradition Bill issue and really gets to the heart of the problem: What's really going on in Hong Kong

The true problem has been ignored for so long now that a tremendous anger has built up, and it's really hard to see how Beijing are going to defuse it peacefully.
What needs to happen now - the bursting of the property market bubble for a start - is too costly to them and their Tycoon friends.
In that case, a crackdown is inevitable in my view. This could be the end of Hong Kong as we know it today.
 

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The western media have completely ignored similar massive marches in support of the Hong Kong legislature.

The so-called 'pro-democracy' protesters are the remnants of the Kuomintang party that was defeated in the Chinese civil war.
 

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The tanks need to roll in.
The western media have completely ignored similar massive marches in support of the Hong Kong legislature.

The so-called 'pro-democracy' protesters are the remnants of the Kuomintang party that was defeated in the Chinese civil war.
And our Shinner posters right behind the fascist Chinese government cracking down on the People
 

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Of course there are civil grievances in Hong Hong ,as there are in may other countries. These grievances are nourished by Western NGO;s to create civil disturbance and in some case armed revolution.This is known as Hybrid Warfare, see the book by Gene Sharp. The demonstrations in Hong Kong are much similar to the Color Revolutions financed by the West in Ukraine ,Georgia, Libya ,Syria et al.
On the other side of China we have the Muslim Uygur province of Zinjiang, where the CIA are stirring the pot to create trouble. There are 18k Uygur holed up in Idlib .Syria. Trained and armed by the CIA and ready to be sent to Zinjiang to create chaos.
 

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Of course there are civil grievances in Hong Hong ,as there are in may other countries. These grievances are nourished by Western NGO;s to create civil disturbance and in some case armed revolution.
So what you're saying is the people of Hong Kong don't know what's good for them and must rely on western NGO's etc ?
If only they could learn to think for themselves.
 

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Of course there are civil grievances in Hong Hong ,as there are in may other countries. These grievances are nourished by Western NGO;s to create civil disturbance and in some case armed revolution.This is known as Hybrid Warfare, see the book by Gene Sharp. The demonstrations in Hong Kong are much similar to the Color Revolutions financed by the West in Ukraine ,Georgia, Libya ,Syria et al.
On the other side of China we have the Muslim Uygur province of Zinjiang, where the CIA are stirring the pot to create trouble. There are 18k Uygur holed up in Idlib .Syria. Trained and armed by the CIA and ready to be sent to Zinjiang to create chaos.
All of the above is rubbish. All of it. Those bells must have addled your brain. Hong Kongers don't need outsiders to let them know that they are at the mercy of one of the world's nastiest regimes. They know it well enough. Your invocation of the CIA while 1 million people are in concentration camps is pathetic.
 

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a colour revolution formulated by the West... and what do they do next? send their armed forces to "protect" the HKers whilst picking a fight with the Chinese? A different kettle of fish than Syria or Iraq. The Chinese have reneged on the agreements made in the 90s,, and now putting their totalitarian boot heel on the HK like they already have on the Chinese people. And West will sit back and learn all the Chinese methods and then implement them on the people in the West.
 
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