What must the NP do to be elected?

FairstoodtheWind

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Do the NP have a chance of being elected in the state? What must they do to achieve the ranking of a SF or Labour Party? Do they face the danger of being pigeon holed as a single issue party ie anti or controlled immigration. Obviously they have the power of the State and media against them, but parties like SF also faced such bile in the day with Section 31 censorship and continued to thrive electorally (at least for a while)

I am thinking of examples like UKIP and For Britain in the UK. UKIP at one point garnered 4 million votes. Not enough to get a MP under FPTP, but the largest party in the country in the EU PR system. UKIP was always the party that expressed most concern with uncontrolled mass immigration in the UK, but their central position was Brexit. Once the referendum was done, UKIP's vote collapsed, and now is stripped of the Brexit issue by Farage' Brexit Party. They have went on about immigration and Islam and have a relationship with Tommy Robinson. But they continue to be unelectable in the face of Farage's party who doesn't even mention immigration.

Anne Marie Water's For Britain has headed down the "concerned about Isalm" route, but to no electoral advantage at all. This in a country where Islam is over 3 million strong, endless stories about rape gangs and now evidence that state is beginning to bend to the cultural demands of Islam. If a "concerned about Islam" party can make no headway in the UK what chances are there for a "concerned about Islam" party in Ireland? An Ireland where the only people really worried about Islamification are political heads/watchers, but not the general population. An Ireland that is relatively far behind in the islamifcation process.


One aspect that has come out of the Liberalisation of Ireland in the last number of decades is this almost pathological desire to forget or deny our past. Stemming from historic crimes with the Church, the general assumption is fed that Ireland before Mary Robinson was a shithole and nobody in their right minds would want to salvage anything from before that. The comments on Tagdh's Revisionist History thread shows that our "intellectuals" feed this notion, casting doubt on the legitimacy of struggle for Irish Freedom. Our nationalism, in the eyes of the State, has been reduced to cos-play pageantry on a Easter Sunday/Monday or how enthusiastic we are in supporting "Ireland" as they play their west brit sport in Japan. And from waht I see, the Irish population have accepted that things from the past are "old hat" a different Ireland. Can a party that focuses on the revival of National feeling, that holds up Pearse and Connolly as role model to motivate and inspire, expect to make headway in an Ireland that has rejected it's past?

Even the recent carry on over Direct provision centres has reflected a malaise in the Irish population on this issue. Whilst 2000 people turned out to protest the Oughterard plan 2 weeks later virtually nobody in Carrickmacross would protest about the brutal rape of a girl in a town that had already had two its young men killed by migrants. To cap it all, the local hotel has been booked out by capitalist swine to accommodate his migrant labour force. Met with general apathy.

At least the NP have had the good sense notpigeon hole itself on the EU issue, especially now that Anti Brexit is regarded as political religion in Ireland. To be against the Brits is more important than daring to examine the impact the EU will have on the future of the Ireland. Or should the NP become more vociferously Anti EU in anticipation of an expected fracturing of the EU across the continent.

If you were Barrett what direction would you take the NP in?
 
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Another OP about a You Tube Channel & Hiking Group which can only barely post a couple of Tweet Pics of People's Hands...
 

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Do the NP have a chance of being elected in the state? What must they do to achieve the ranking of a SF or Labour Party? Do they face the danger of being pigeon holed as a single issue party ie anti or controlled immigration. Obviously they have the power of the State and media against them, but parties like SF also faced such bile in the day with Section 31 censorship and continued to thrive electorally (at least for a while)

I am thinking of examples like UKIP and For Britain in the UK. UKIP at one point garnered 4 million votes. Not enough to get a MP under FPTP, but the largest party in the country in the EU PR system. UKIP was always the party that expressed most concern with uncontrolled mass immigration in the UK, but their central position was Brexit. Once the referendum was done, UKIP's vote collapsed, and now is stripped of the Brexit issue by Farage' Brexit Party. They have went on about immigration and Islam and have a relationship with Tommy Robinson. But they continue to be unelectable in the face of Farage's party who doesn't even mention immigration.

Anne Marie Water's For Britain has headed down the "concerned about Isalm" route, but to no electoral advantage at all. This in a country where Islam is over 3 million strong, endless stories about rape gangs and now evidence that state is beginning to bend to the cultural demands of Islam. If a "concerned about Islam" party can make no headway in the UK what chances are there for a "concerned about Islam" party in Ireland? An Ireland where the only people really worried about Islamification are political heads/watchers, but not the general population. An Ireland that is relatively far behind in the islamifcation process.


One aspect that has come out of the Liberalisation of Ireland in the last number of decades is this almost pathological desire to forget or deny our past. Stemming from historic crimes with the Church, the general assumption is fed that Ireland before Mary Robinson was a shithole and nobody in their right minds would want to salvage anything from before that. The comments on Tagdh's Revisionist History thread shows that our "intellectuals" feed this notion, casting doubt on the legitimacy of struggle for Irish Freedom. Our nationalism, in the eyes of the State, has been reduced to cos-play pageantry on a Easter Sunday/Monday or how enthusiastic we are in supporting "Ireland" as they play their west brit sport in Japan. And from waht I see, the Irish population have accepted that things from the past are "old hat" a different Ireland. Can a party that focuses on the revival of National feeling, that holds up Pearse and Connolly as role model to motivate and inspire, expect to make headway in an Ireland that has rejected it's past?

Even the recent carry on over Direct provision centres has reflected a malaise in the Irish population on this issue. Whilst 2000 people turned out to protest the Oughterard plan 2 weeks later virtually nobody in Carrickmacross would protest about the brutal rape of a girl in a town that had already had two its young men killed by migrants. To cap it all, the local hotel has been booked out by capitalist swine to accommodate his migrant labour force. Met with general apathy.

At least the NP have had the good sense notpigeon hole itself on the EU issue, especially now that Anti Brexit is regarded as political religion in Ireland. To be against the Brits is more important than daring to examine the impact the EU will have on the future of the Ireland. Or should the NP become more vociferously Anti EU in anticipation of an expected fracturing of the EU across the continent.

If you were Barrett what direction would you take the NP in?
The BNP was the real voice against immigration in Britain, they were destroyed by the media's promotion of safety valve UKIP. Would the same happen in Ireland if the National Party start winning, will one of the main parties like Fianna Fail for example start pretending that they oppose immigration as a way to destroy the National Party and its vote.
 

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Do the NP have a chance of being elected in the state? What must they do to achieve the ranking of a SF or Labour Party? Do they face the danger of being pigeon holed as a single issue party ie anti or controlled immigration. Obviously they have the power of the State and media against them, but parties like SF also faced such bile in the day with Section 31 censorship and continued to thrive electorally (at least for a while)

I am thinking of examples like UKIP and For Britain in the UK. UKIP at one point garnered 4 million votes. Not enough to get a MP under FPTP, but the largest party in the country in the EU PR system. UKIP was always the party that expressed most concern with uncontrolled mass immigration in the UK, but their central position was Brexit. Once the referendum was done, UKIP's vote collapsed, and now is stripped of the Brexit issue by Farage' Brexit Party. They have went on about immigration and Islam and have a relationship with Tommy Robinson. But they continue to be unelectable in the face of Farage's party who doesn't even mention immigration.

Anne Marie Water's For Britain has headed down the "concerned about Isalm" route, but to no electoral advantage at all. This in a country where Islam is over 3 million strong, endless stories about rape gangs and now evidence that state is beginning to bend to the cultural demands of Islam. If a "concerned about Islam" party can make no headway in the UK what chances are there for a "concerned about Islam" party in Ireland? An Ireland where the only people really worried about Islamification are political heads/watchers, but not the general population. An Ireland that is relatively far behind in the islamifcation process.


One aspect that has come out of the Liberalisation of Ireland in the last number of decades is this almost pathological desire to forget or deny our past. Stemming from historic crimes with the Church, the general assumption is fed that Ireland before Mary Robinson was a shithole and nobody in their right minds would want to salvage anything from before that. The comments on Tagdh's Revisionist History thread shows that our "intellectuals" feed this notion, casting doubt on the legitimacy of struggle for Irish Freedom. Our nationalism, in the eyes of the State, has been reduced to cos-play pageantry on a Easter Sunday/Monday or how enthusiastic we are in supporting "Ireland" as they play their west brit sport in Japan. And from waht I see, the Irish population have accepted that things from the past are "old hat" a different Ireland. Can a party that focuses on the revival of National feeling, that holds up Pearse and Connolly as role model to motivate and inspire, expect to make headway in an Ireland that has rejected it's past?

Even the recent carry on over Direct provision centres has reflected a malaise in the Irish population on this issue. Whilst 2000 people turned out to protest the Oughterard plan 2 weeks later virtually nobody in Carrickmacross would protest about the brutal rape of a girl in a town that had already had two its young men killed by migrants. To cap it all, the local hotel has been booked out by capitalist swine to accommodate his migrant labour force. Met with general apathy.

At least the NP have had the good sense notpigeon hole itself on the EU issue, especially now that Anti Brexit is regarded as political religion in Ireland. To be against the Brits is more important than daring to examine the impact the EU will have on the future of the Ireland. Or should the NP become more vociferously Anti EU in anticipation of an expected fracturing of the EU across the continent.

If you were Barrett what direction would you take the NP in?
It is very early days for the NP.It might take more immigration and undesirables coming to Ireland to wake up people,I hope it doesn't come to that.I do think they should be stronger on leaving the EU,so that people know they are an alternative to the confused love the EU nationalism that's around.Make it clear that Irish unity and self determination is number one priority.
 

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The National Party has every intention of becoming a Political Power in Ireland. You cannot make change unless you have the levers of the State in your hands.
Sinn Fein have surrendered their chances of ever assuming Power by exposing their GloboHomo Marxist core and no longer offer an alternative, they will wither away and become an irrelevance.
Labour long ago betrayed the ideals of James Connolly and will totter along with a minority of working class votes to sustain them.
FG/FF, I couple together,because they both represent the Financial/Corporate interests who control them, ultimately from Brussels. They are a danger to the Nation of Ireland and its People.
FG/FF will sign and sell out anything that is not nailed down in this melancholy land of ours and show every indication that they are but puppets on a string to International vested interests. Ireland is used and abused as a test in a Mass Migration social engineering experiment , the results which will curse this Island for centuries unless drastic action is taken.
By a process of elimination and Logic the National Party are the only political force with the integrity ,personnel and policies to rescue Ireland from the dangerous future that faces us because of the apathy, cowardice and fear of a submissive beaten down populace.
 

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I'm looking into Integral Humanism at the mo. It's the official ideology of the BJP. Basically nationalism, social conservatism and anti-individualism but without the rejection of creature comforts. It seems to be a good political framework for the NP to cite both from the successes of the BJP's economic and social policy implementations and the fact that the BJP smashed the decades long stranglehold Congress had over Indian politics by offering a real alternative. This could be aimed at either the FFFG duopoly or the EU
I don't believe it has anything to do with the Integral Humanism of Jacques Maritain which I wouldn't be too keen on after brief analysis
 
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