"What China Will Be Like As A Great Power" : Martin Jacques

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How did it get cancer?

The US is gone - its been Israhelled. Russia China and Israel the new superpower. As was the plan all along. Belt and Road initiative. Hi tech domination. Smart Cities - welcome to the NWO a chara.

You will look back at clips of America in the 50s and 60s, before it was Israhelled completely, and you will cry. Their intention was to turn it into a shit hole and they have succeeded. God bless America.
I would go along with that analysis, further i cannot see the Chinese being Israhelled as so many countries have in the past and present. Their system does not lend itself to the methods.
 

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Could you give me one quote from Marx to that effect?
As you are worth it Comrade Gaelach, I will do just that. These are quotes from a very interesting chap called Richard Weikart. The full essay is here -


"... later claimed that the sexual community was aprerequisite for the development of larger social groups and this facilitated theevolution of humans from animals. With naturalistic explanations such asthese, Marx and Engels had shifted to a position in which not the family, but theabsence of the family, was the original and natural state of humanity.
Even during the time they assumed that the family was a natural institution ofsociety, Marx and Engels were clear that it was not a fixed entity. In CapitalMarxpronounced as silly any absolutising of the family, since it had developed throughhistorical stages. In The German Ideology Marx and Engels asserted, 'It is notpossible to speak of 'the' family'. Although they never sketched out thehistorical stages of the family in their pre-Morgan days, they did touch on someof the effects of the family on subsequent history. The family, in fact, played animportant, though malevolent, role in the early history of humanity, according toMarx and Engels. It was within the family that private property and the divisionof labour first developed..................
................ For thefamily was the source of private property and the division of labour, which Marxand Engels equated with alienation and exploitation."

And the bone idle sonuvabitch who never worked a day in his life is back whinging about the division of labour again. What an annoying lazy bastard he was. Who can take people who come out with the above shite seroiusly. Him and Engels were bona fide nutters.

Here's more -

".......This is confirmed by his continual insistencethat the family would be destroyed: 'Therefore after, for example, the earthlyfamily is discovered as the secret of the holy family, the former must itself betheoretically and practically destroyed'. Although Marx once enigmaticallyreferred to a higher form of family to supplant the bourgeois family, he andEngels castigated Hermann Kriege, a fellow socialist, for not insisting on thedestruction of the family........."


".........Whichever side of Marx and Engels one stresses, however, it is clear that theysubordinated in a significant way their critique of the family to their critique ofeconomics. This distinguished Marx's and Engels' view of the family from that ofFourier and Owen. Marx and Engels believed that the abolition of privateproperty and the introduction of socialism would bring in its wake a dissolutionof the family. Fourier and Owen, on the other hand, saw the abolition of thefamily as part and parcel of their socialist proposals to ameliorate society. BothFourier and Owen hoped that small communist enclaves—for Fourier thephalansteries and for Owen communities of 500-2000 people—would supplantthe family as a social and economic unit and thus facilitate the transformation tosocialism. Owen's continual emphasis on the role of education in shaping anindividual's character and outlook lent urgency to his appeal for the abolition ofthe family, since only by removing children from the supposedly irrational anddeleterious influence of parents could he hope to alter society. The materialistconception of history shifted attention away from the family and sexualrelationships and relegated them to a position of less significance than theeconomy........."

I hope that Owen bastard wasn't Irish. Looks like all commies sing from the same hymn sheet when it comes to the family.

"..........It is not at all clearwhat form Marx thought marriage would take in communist society, but again,Engels filled in the details. Marriage would no longer be a legal relationship, butwould be purely a private affair between individuals. The absence of privateproperty would contribute to a far freer relationship, since the woman would notbe dependent on any man. Furthermore, since children would be raisedcommunally, they would not be of any concern in relationships between the sexes........."

"...............First of all, he reiterated a position that he and Marx had advanced in their earlywritings—that private housework would be supplanted by social labour. Notonly would women work in factories, as was already beginning to occur, butprivate housework would be converted into a public industry with communalchild care, cooking, etc. This would liberate women from the economic bondageof the family. Implicit in the abolition of marriage is a radically new sexual morality. Engelsasserted that only with the abolition of the family could individual sexual loveemerge as the dominant form of sexual relationship. The institution of marriagetoo often restricted such relationships because economic factors often militatetoward marriages of convenience or material advantage. In communist society,however, the only norm of sexual behaviour would be that sexual relations mustbe an expression of mutual love.........."

Wonder how many of his slaves Engels slipped a bit of his free love to.

And finally -
"....................... They held forth the hope that, instead ofsubmitting to nature, communist society would be consciously shaped byhumans freely creating. People would no longer be subject to what is natural.Even if people had a natural bond to their children, no provision would be madefor this in communist society. Whatever Engels may have conjectured about thenatural affinity of humans toward stable amorous relationships in communistsociety, he envisioned a society in which no compulsion would interfere withrelationships. Thus, theoretically, any sexual relationship between mutuallyconsenting persons would be possible. What would not be possible would be thesecurity of a life-long marriage. This sexual relationship could not be chosen."

Tadhg, you can thank Karl Marx that we have a gay Indian Kylie Minogue superfan for Taoiseach and a yankie doodle dandy carpet muncher as minister for children. Karl's other illegitimate child - cultural Marxism, is the reason I wake up every day wondering what the fuck happened to my country.



And here's(The Radical Assault on Marriage and Family, from Karl Marx to Justice Kennedy – Catholic World Report) some good old-fashioned hardcore Catholics laying in the boot to Moses Mordechai Marx Levy, which contains the following -


"Lenin and the Bolsheviks immediately went after God/religion, private property, and marriage and family. They radically liberalized all divorce and abortion laws. You weren’t free in Bolshevik Russia to have freedom of religion, press, assembly, speech, or property, but, wow, if you wanted a divorce or an abortion, you were the freest person on the planet! The sky was the limit. And in very short course, Russia soon had divorce and abortion rates unseen in the history of the world. In fact, the abortion rate got so bad that it astounded Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger, who took a fact-finding trip to the Soviet Union in 1934, and even stunned Stalin, who, in 1936, was forced to ban abortion out of fear that his country would soon cease to exist. Russian women were annihilating the future generation. This madness had to be stopped or there would be no communist Russia. "
 

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You fools wishing for a Chinese future - I’ll bet none of you have ever been to China, much less lived or worked there.
But I have.
You feckers will all get a rude awakening when China gets the upper hand over you. I can tell you for starters that the Irish would collapse and commit communal suicide if forced to accept the Chinese way of working and living.
Chinese society and culture is so alien to your western values and standards that I guarantee none of you could stand it. You haven’t the faintest idea what it’s like to live with.
One thing I’ll say for the Chinese - all your macho bullshit will evaporate overnight when they hold the whip hand over you. Fck your ‘human rights’ and ‘freedoms’. You’ll soon find out you’re nothing but slaves.
That’s China.
 

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You fools wishing for a Chinese future - I’ll bet none of you have ever been to China, much less lived or worked there.
Bit I have.
You feckers will all get a rude awakening when China gets the upper hand over you. I can tell you for starters that the Irish would collapse and commit communal suicide if forced to accept the Chinese way of working and living.
Chinese society and culture is so alien to your western values and standards that I guarantee none of you could stand it. You haven’t the faintest idea what it’s like to live with.
One thing I’ll say for the Chinese - all your macho bullshit will evaporate overnight when they hold the whip hand over you. Fck your ‘human rights’ and ‘freedoms’. You’ll soon find out you’re nothing but slaves.
That’s China.
Well said. I am familiar with a Chinese healer who said it will take generations to heal the mind boggling evil inflicted on the good people of China by the insane Commies. The you know whos helped Mousey Dung run the evil racket known as Communist China. Here he is surrounded by them.

 

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What a retrograde narrow and in the very worst sense parochial outlook.

Such unchristian negativity is of course the hall mark of all followers of antipope Francis 1st.
Let's see you practise your version of Catholicism in your beloved China.
 

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I've just noticed that a post of mine has been deleted from this thread.
I consider that to be very bad form by the moderation team.

This is the post-

"China is a disease, and it's spreading. It's about to breed with Russia and match the US."

Here's the mod comment -
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Really?:poop:
 

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China will invade west, but in doing so it will collapse within.
The Moslem basis east will be destroyed, Russia will remain.

All EU/Moslem immigrants will suffer (Get out NOW)..
The safest place for immigrants is the African continent.
 

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Let's see you practise your version of Catholicism in your beloved China.
Indeed it would be problematic because the antipope you support has fully betrayed the true Catholic Church there to the anti religious regime .
I have warned you and all Catholics to avoid this antipope.

That China’s regime destroys Catholic Churches is indeed a great tragedy and you, by supporting the antipope , sadly support that regime..

( My support for China’s economic growth has nothing to do with its governments failure in religious and human rights)
 
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