Was Pearse a Pedophille?

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We all know Padraig Pearse had pederastic tendencies, and that he fancied wee boys.
After all, he wrote the following poem in 1909, only a year after founding his own school for boys, St Enda's.
Personally, I believe that confliction over his desire for wee boys is one of the driving motivations that led Pearse to the effective suicide of the Rising.
But primarily, I'm opening this thread to ask if anyone can provide an innocent interpretation of the poem below, because I'm now utterly bored with frothing-mouthed Shinners frantically emailing me to deny that Pearse was a paedo.

If he's not a paedo, then you won't mind telling me what this is about, will you?

LITTLE LAD OF THE TRICKS

by Padraig Pearse.


Little lad of the tricks,
Full well I know
That you have been in mischief
Confess your fault truly.

I forgive you, child
Of the soft red mouth
I will not condemn anyone
For a sin not understood.

Raise your comely head
Till I kiss your mouth:
If either of us is the better of that
I am the better of it.

There is a fragrance in your kiss
That I have not found yet
In the kisses of women
Or in the honey of their bodies.

Lad of the grey eyes,
That flush in thy cheek
Would be white with dread of me
Could you read my secrets.

He who has my secrets
Is not fit to touch you:
Is not that a pitiful thing,

Little lad of the tricks ?
 
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Tadhg Gaelach said:
I take it you are a refugee from politics.ie A word of advice, poetry is not written for clod hoppers like you.
I forgive you, child
Of the soft red mouth
Raise your comely head

Till I kiss your mouth
if either of us is the better of that
]I am the better of it.


If it looks like a Pedophile, Sounds like a pedophile, and acts like a pedophile its a pedophile.
 
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It is a beautiful poem and reminds me of a moment I had with with my nephew that had nothing of the erotic/sexual about it at all. Patrick Pearse had a rich emotional life- that poem wasnt meant for you JCS but I note at the time none of his enemies brought it up to condemn him because at the time it would have been seen by no one in the filthy disgusting light you cast.
 
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JCS said:
[font=Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif]I forgive you, child[/font]

[font=Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif]Of the soft red mouth:[/font]

[font=Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif]Raise your comely head[/font]
[font=Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif]Till I kiss your mouth:[/font]
[font=Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif]If either of us is the better of that[/font]
[font=Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif]I am the better of it.[/font]


If it looks like a Pedophile, Sounds like a pedophile, and acts like a pedophile its a pedophile.
In Iran and Serbia men kiss each other on the mouth and there is nothing homosexual about.
 

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JCS said:



If it looks like a Pedophile, Sounds like a pedophile, and acts like a pedophile its a pedophile.
As the judge said when he passed sentence on you :D
 

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SwordOfStCatherine said:
It is a beautiful poem and reminds me of a moment I had with with my nephew that had nothing of the erotic/sexual about it at all. Patrick Pearse had a rich emotional life- that poem wasnt meant for you JCS but I note at the time none of his enemies brought it up to condemn him because at the time it would have been seen by no one in the filthy disgusting light you cast.
Very true a chara.  Poetry must express the most tender moments of the human spirit.  The likes of JCS, who's most intellectual pursuit is watching Sky Sports, cannot hope to understand that.  I notice he is just putting up translations of the poem also. No doubt he cannot read the original.
 

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SwordOfStCatherine said:
It is a beautiful poem and reminds me of a moment I had with with my nephew that had nothing of the erotic/sexual about it at all. Patrick Pearse had a rich emotional life- that poem wasnt meant for you JCS but I note at the time none of his enemies brought it up to condemn him because at the time it would have been seen by no one in the filthy disgusting light you cast.
reminds me of a moment I had with with my nephew 


 

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SwordOfStCatherine said:
It is a beautiful poem and reminds me of a moment I had with with my nephew that had nothing of the erotic/sexual about it at all. Patrick Pearse had a rich emotional life- that poem wasnt meant for you JCS but I note at the time none of his enemies brought it up to condemn him because at the time it would have been seen by no one in the filthy disgusting light you cast.
 
There was no need to shoot him for the Poem when they could just shoot him for being a strategic flop.
 
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Tadhg Gaelach said:
Very true a chara.  Poetry must express the most tender moments of the human spirit.  The likes of JCS, who's most intellectual pursuit is watching Sky Sports, cannot hope to understand that.  I notice he is just putting up translations of the poem also. No doubt he cannot read the original.
It is often forgotten that Pearse was a particularly fine poet, as was Count Joseph Mary Plunkett.

It also depressing and informative that you have all these people automatically associating loving with lusting. I really pity them.
 
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There was no need to shoot him for the Poem when they could just shoot him for being a strategic flop.
Yet one who had a massive influence on the course of 20 th century Irish history for better or worse. The fact that no one at the time when he openly published read pornographic thoughts into it says all that needs to be said- and lets remember the whole fuss about the Casement diaries. 

Sixteen Dead Men by W.B. Yeats.

O but we talked at large before
The sixteen men were shot,
But who can talk of give and take,
What should be and what not
While those dead men are loitering there
To stir the boiling pot?

You say that we should still the land
Till Germany’s overcome;
But who is there to argue that
Now Pearse is deaf and dumb?
And is their logic to outweigh
MacDonagh’s bony thumb?

How could you dream they’d listen
That have an ear alone
For those new comrades they have found,
Lord Edward and Wolfe Tone,
Or meddle with our give and take
That converse bone to bone?
 
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