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The Yinon plan for a "Greater Israel".

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This "everyone wants to destroy Israel" is a load of nonsense imo. They all seem to be busy trying not to get killed and stop their counties falling apart, while Israel merrily protects ISIS and alQaeda in Syria bombing the place to bits to provide cover for the real terrorists. Israel admitted this themselves. This is about power,expansion and land, nothing to do with religion.
In 1967 Egypt said it would push the Israelis into the sea,they lost reality there it is.
 
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There's a lot of silly billies out there that need to understand that blaming Israel and some secret societies for everything is just childish nonsense.Concentrate on a united independent Ireland,the rest will follow.This word ziomatrix comes up a lot when I looked it up the only use of the word I could find came from David Duke of the Ku Klux Klan.Having said that I get the idea that the Jews ,bankers and others rule the world.Anyway I don't believe it!Anyone want to tell me where the word ziomatrix comes from?
 
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Was this before or after Israel bombed nearly all the Egyptian airforce on the ground ? This started the 1967 war
That maybe so I've no idea the point is a lot of Arab countries want to destroy Israel but they failed,they lost and do we want Islamists gaining more power?
 
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That maybe so I've no idea the point is a lot of Arab countries want to destroy Israel but they failed,they lost and do we want Islamists gaining more power)
My point is that is outdated. No one is capable of destroying Israel so that is a moot point. The largest (I think) Arab country Saudi Arabia is now working hand in hand with Israel both in Yemen and also against Iran. Israel is pally with ISIS, al Qaeda and al Nusra, helping them out in Syria. So who is going to attack Israel ?

The Palestinians are largely unarmed except for stones and knives. The so-called "rockets" that Hamas have are largely homemade, unguided and do very little damage. They are no match for the huge hi-tech Israeli army, navy and airforce

It is not up to us who gets in to power but the people themselves will decide who is going to rule them. It's time we stopped interfering in the Middle East. That interference has caused the refugee crisis we have now on our doorstep and 10s of thousands of deaths of innocent people
 
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My point is that is outdated. No one is capable of destroying Israel so that is a moot point. The largest (I think) Arab country Saudi Arabia is now working hand in hand with Israel both in Yemen and also against Iran. Israel is pally with ISIS, al Qaeda and al Nusra, helping them out in Syria. So who is going to attack Israel ?

The Palestinians are largely unarmed except for stones and knives. The so-called "rockets" that Hamas have are largely homemade, unguided and do very little damage. They are no match for the huge hi-tech Israeli army, navy and airforce

It is not up to us who gets in to power but the people themselves will decide who is going to rule them. It's time we stopped interfering in the Middle East. That interference has caused the refugee crisis we have now on our doorstep and 10s of thousands of deaths of innocent people
I certainly agree that we should stop meddling.Perhaps when oil is less important we will.
 

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There is no need for ignorant name-calling. If you can't be civil and have any sensible points to make why don't you piss off back to the Zionist occupied territory that is p.ie
He was telling us a few weeks ago on here that he doesn't support Israel or the Palestinians and just wants to see peace yet he calls everyone supporting the Palestinians anti-Semitic and gives likes to every pro-Israel post anyone makes.

A pure Zionist shill. Best ignored as unlike some of them he doesn't even have intelligence as a redeeming feature and can only call names or post Zionist memes like Telstar.
 
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He was telling us a few weeks ago on here that he doesn't support Israel or the Palestinians and just wants to see peace yet he calls everyone supporting the Palestinians anti-Semitic and gives likes to every pro-Israel post anyone makes.

A pure Zionist shill. Best ignored as unlike some of them he doesn't even have intelligence as a redeeming feature and can only call names or post Zionist memes like Telstar.
People like you hide behind the mask of claiming to support the Palestinians. Many of your posts are littered with conspiracy bullshit about Jews. You really ride most antisemitic horses on offer.
All you do is what some people did for the last 2000 years....
 

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According to Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya in a 2011 Global Research article, The Yinon Plan was a continuation of Britain’s colonial design in the Middle East:
[The Yinon plan] is an Israeli strategic plan to ensure Israeli regional superiority. It insists and stipulates that Israel must reconfigure its geo-political environment through the balkanization of the surrounding Arab states into smaller and weaker states.

Israeli strategists viewed Iraq as their biggest strategic challenge from an Arab state. This is why Iraq was outlined as the centerpiece to the balkanization of the Middle East and the Arab World. In Iraq, on the basis of the concepts of the Yinon Plan, Israeli strategists have called for the division of Iraq into a Kurdish state and two Arab states, one for Shiite Muslims and the other for Sunni Muslims. The first step towards establishing this was a war between Iraq and Iran, which the Yinon Plan discusses.

The Atlantic, in 2008, and the U.S. military’s Armed Forces Journal, in 2006, both published widely circulated maps that closely followed the outline of the Yinon Plan. Aside from a divided Iraq, which the Biden Plan also calls for, the Yinon Plan calls for a divided Lebanon, Egypt, and Syria. The partitioning of Iran, Turkey, Somalia, and Pakistan also all fall into line with these views. The Yinon Plan also calls for dissolution in North Africa and forecasts it as starting from Egypt and then spilling over into Sudan, Libya, and the rest of the region.
Greater Israel” requires the breaking up of the existing Arab states into small states.
“The plan operates on two essential premises. To survive, Israel must 1) become an imperial regional power, and 2) must effect the division of the whole area into small states by the dissolution of all existing Arab states. Small here will depend on the ethnic or sectarian composition of each state. Consequently, the Zionist hope is that sectarian-based states become Israel’s satellites and, ironically, its source of moral legitimation… This is not a new idea, nor does it surface for the first time in Zionist strategic thinking. Indeed, fragmenting all Arab states into smaller units has been a recurrent theme.” (Yinon Plan, see below)
Viewed in this context, the war on Syria and Iraq is part of the process of Israeli territorial expansion.

Michel Chossudovsky, Global Research, September 06, 2015, updated December 28, 2016
It seems Chossudovsky was right

Netanyahu Backs Partitioning Iraq for Kurdish State

Aug 14 2017 / 7:27 pm

During a meeting with a U.S. delegation, Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu expressed interest in partitioning Iraq.
The Prime Minister told the group of 33 congressmen that he favored the establishment of an independent Kurdish state in the Arab country. Israel has a longstanding relationship with the Kurds, who remains one of its few non-Arab allies in the area.
The Jerusalem Post reported that a source who attended the meeting said Netanyahu referred to the Kurds as “brave, pro-Western people who share our values.”

Netanyahu previously spoke on the issue in 2014 when he said in a speech that Israel should “support the Kurdish aspiration for independence.”
Two months ago Iranian Parliament Speaker Ali Larijani warned about bids to break up Iraq, saying the partitioning of Arab countries serves the interests of Israel. “The Zionist regime seeks Iraq’s disintegration,” Larijani accused during a meeting with Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi in Tehran.
A report published in the New Yorker magazine in 2004 said Israeli military and intelligence operatives were active in Kurdish areas and providing training for commando units.​
According to the report, Israel has been expanding its presence in Kurdistan and encouraging Kurds, its allies in the region, to create an independent state.

Netanyahu Backs Partitioning Iraq for Kurdish State
 

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The guy who was heavily involved in convincing Sarkozy to destroy Libya: Bernard-Henri Levy is now calling for a Kurdish state.

He's Jewish, so of course what he really wants is the Balkanisation of Syria, which is what Israel wants.

He'd most likely not piss on a Kurd if he was on fire!

The Kurds Are Not Children
 
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The guy who was heavily involved in convincing Sarkozy to destroy Libya: Bernard-Henri Levy is now calling for a Kurdish state.

He's Jewish, so of course what he really wants is the Balkanisation of Syria, which is what Israel wants.

He'd most likely not piss on a Kurd if he was on fire!

The Kurds Are Not Children

You loony Lefties rabbit on about the 'self-determination' of the Palestinians -
then do a u-turn when that's applied to the Kurds!!:smiley:

Fair play to Israel for supporting a Kurdish homeland.:cool:
 

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You loony Lefties rabbit on about the 'self-determination' of the Palestinians -
then do a u-turn when that's applied to the Kurds!!:smiley:

Fair play to Israel for supporting a Kurdish homeland.:cool:

It just highlights the hypocrisy of Netanyahu. He wants the Kurds to have a "homeland" because it will contain Syrian oil fields.

Yet at home he denies self determination and a homeland for the Palestinian people. He speaks from both sides of his mouth
 
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It just highlights the hypocrisy of Netanyahu. He wants the Kurds to have a "homeland" because it will contain Syrian oil fields.

Yet at home he denies self determination and a homeland for the Palestinian people. He speaks from both sides of his mouth
You are in complete denial
There is no agreed peace plan so how can there self determimation. If the Despotic Hamas are to be believed amd elections take place that could be the first step in facilitating self determination. I think You are talking out both sides of your mouth.
Bulshitting about the Yinon plan and throwing whatever half baked piece of anti semitism you can find at the Jews.
Get a grip!
 
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" Then there is the sign of the abomination of desolation and all that relates to the Temple in Jerusalem. For the first time in history, this has now become a possibility. The rebuilding of the Temple was tried only once before, in the fourth century. Knowing about this is a very good example of how reading Church history enlightens one. We can find several sources about it from the fourth century: St. Cyril mentions it, as do several of the Church historians at that time. Julian the Apostate, because he had such a passion to overthrow Christianity, decided that, since Christ had prophesied that not one stone of the Temple would be left on the other, if he rebuilt the Temple, he would prove that Christ was an impostor, and therefore paganism could be restored. So he deliberately invited the Jews back to Jerusalem, and they began building the Temple with the blessing of Julian the Apostate. They would build a little in the daytime, and the next morning they would come and all the stones would be on the ground. They tried again and balls of fire began to come out of the earth. All the historians agree on this. In fact, modern rationalist historians, because they see that they cannot deny the texts and that something did actually happen, begin to say things like, "They must have struck oil," or "There were underground gas flues." It was obviously a miracle of God to keep the Temple from being built, because it was not the time—the Temple is to be built only at the very end of the world. Anyway, they finally failed in their attempt and gave up the operation. Of the few stones that remained, not one was left on the other. So the prophecy was fulfilled in the time of Julian the Apostate.
But now, since 1967, the site where the Temple was before is now in the hands of the Jews. Therefore for the first time, it becomes quite possible that the Temple could be built. The only thing interfering is the great mosque which the Moslems have there. If that's destroyed, there will probably be a war.
Only since 1948 has there been a separate state of Jews in the Holy Land. It is to the unbelieving Jews that the Antichrist will come. He will come first to the Jews and then to the whole world through the Jews; and only as this is happening will the faithful remnant of Jews finally be converted to Christianity in the very last times.
So this sign of the Temple is a very big one. When we see the Temple being built, then we know that the time is at hand, because that is definitely one of the signs of the very end. So far, of course, it's not being built, but there are all kinds of rumors that plans have been laid, that stones are being gathered, etc. It's obvious that the Jews are thinking about it."


The temple in Jerusalem
A fairy story