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The situation of property isn't so rosy in Hong Kong where the govt raises it's revenue leasing land (less than 5% of Hong Kong can be used for housing) to scumbag developers who then charge a fortune for the renting of a coffin sized cage apartment. Most of those developers are Chinese.

Deng's reforms led to a great many injustices and created a class of Capitalists who are the hangers on of the Communist Party.
 

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Ballot papers prove otherwise.

Take your communist shine box elsewhere, TG.
You're wasting my time

You can have Varadkar or Martin as your leader. Are you telling me that's some kind of freedom? On yer bike a chara.....
 

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Deng's reforms led to a great many injustices and created a class of Capitalists who are the hangers on of the Communist Party.
Hangers on? They have been leading it for decades now. In China the billionaires are getting richer and richer they will not be giving up any of it, if economic pain comes it will be the ordinary Chinese who pay for it, in addition the country is run by a declared nationalist agenda which is not communism, they have their hands in free trade deals all over the planet and exploit Africans and others into giving up their resources for loans issued by China to their corrupt govts, it's basically what the West has always done. This is not communism of any kind.

There is no difference between China and the West except that China is more authoritarian and ignores public opinion arising from the bottom and that the economy is centrally managed to a greater extent. I say Chinese elites have a greater kinship with Warren Buffet than with the local rickshaw driver in Beijing.
 

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Hangers on? They have been leading it for decades now. In China the billionaires are getting richer and richer they will not be giving up any of it, if economic pain comes it will be the ordinary Chinese who pay for it, in addition the country is run by a declared nationalist agenda which is not communism, they have their hands in free trade deals all over the planet and exploit Africans and others into giving up their resources for loans issued by China to their corrupt govts, it's basically what the West has always done. This is not communism of any kind.

There is no difference between China and the West except that China is more authoritarian and ignores public opinion arising from the bottom and that the economy is centrally managed to a greater extent.

I wouldn't go that far. It's more like National Socialist Germany, where the billionaires are under the control of the Party.
 

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I wouldn't go that far. It's more like National Socialist Germany, where the billionaires are under the control of the Party.
Yes perhaps. Both were capitalist and killed huge numbers of their own people, both were driven by a sense of historical grievance. That is in truth a feature of both, both claimed to be of their people and both killed far more of their people than modern Western countries. In both you don't dare speak out against the ruling party.

Nazi Germany was legendary in it's defence of animal rights and environmentalism however and cultural historical sites of importance were treasured, China's relationship with animals needs no introduction and they have destroyed old China with the bulldozer. A detail in which they are wildly different. It's interesting that India is also going fascist.

 

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Yes perhaps. Both were capitalist and killed huge numbers of their own people, both were driven by a sense of historical grievance. That is in truth a feature of both, both claimed to be of their people and both killed far more of their people than modern Western countries. In both you don't dare speak out against the ruling party.

Nazi Germany was legendary in it's defence of animal rights and environmentalism however and cultural historical sites of importance were treasured, China's relationship with animals needs no introduction and they have destroyed old China with the bulldozer. A detail in which they are wildly different. It's interesting that India is also going fascist.


I feel you overemphasizing the bad side of Chinese society, without giving due consideration to the many great achievements of Chinese art and culture.
 

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Hangers on? They have been leading it for decades now. In China the billionaires are getting richer and richer they will not be giving up any of it, if economic pain comes it will be the ordinary Chinese who pay for it, in addition the country is run by a declared nationalist agenda which is not communism, they have their hands in free trade deals all over the planet and exploit Africans and others into giving up their resources for loans issued by China to their corrupt govts, it's basically what the West has always done. This is not communism of any kind.

There is no difference between China and the West except that China is more authoritarian and ignores public opinion arising from the bottom and that the economy is centrally managed to a greater extent. I say Chinese elites have a greater kinship with Warren Buffet than with the local rickshaw driver in Beijing.
This article would disagree with you there. It is a remarkable fact that the Chinese workforce is far more likely to go on strike than any Western workforce.

Twenty-first-century capitalism is in large part defined by the fact that the most dynamic economic power on the planet is also the one that fears its own population most.

 

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So can the commies.
And they'll shoot you dead just for fun whilst they're at it.
Capitalist Régimes are pretty trigger happy too.

 
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