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Self Moderated The John F. Kennedy assassination

Was Oswald the lone gunman?

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I was discussing the killing of Col. Gadaffi with a well read lady a few years ago. She told me that the powers that be never actually kill the leaders of nations, they put them out to pasture somewhere - some kind of unwritten rule among them.
Well believe it. All of these so called leaders essentially actors playing a part.
Osama Bin Ladin was funded by the CIA
with weapons and supplies in the eighties in Afghanistan, self admitted by the agency itself. Then when 9/11 happened he's used as the scapegoat bogeyman for the atrocity.

Think there have been very few independently arising dictators in the history of the world.

19th century British prime minister Benjamin Disraeli :

" The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes".
 

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WHO was actually assassinated in the back of the open top car in Dallas on that fateful day?

Common knowledge that prominent politicians have used secret service agents as body doubles as a decoy at public events for a long time.
Much in the same way stunt doubles employed in film industry, finding a relatively similar looking person to stand in for main actor during car chases and fight scenes.
A bit of right colour skin makeup, the right wig and provided they have roughly similar facial features it's quite effective especially in a moving car when viewed from a distance away.
The pic of "Kennedy" in car on this thread doesn't look the exact same as all other photos of him around this period.

In 1977 Jimmy Carter came into office and looks remarkably like an older version of the person who portrayed " Kennedy". From the standard up close photos of him at the time. Extremely similar facial features.

The history of the Kennedy family pre JFK very dubious with no evidence proving it a real family ancestry.

" Marilyn Monroe" and " Jackie kennedy" share strong facial similarities and quite possibly the female actor playing both roles.

Staged " assassinations " another gag to keep fear in people, hooked into the idea of government presented publicly as real when it's not, and under the thumb of the rulers who hide in the shadows
Have you been looking at the cover of Abbey Road a bit too much ..................When someone says..You couldnt make it up. that clearly does not apply to you.
 

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Well believe it. All of these so called leaders essentially actors playing a part.
Osama Bin Ladin was funded by the CIA
with weapons and supplies in the eighties in Afghanistan, self admitted by the agency itself. Then when 9/11 happened he's used as the scapegoat bogeyman for the atrocity.

Think there have been very few independently arising dictators in the history of the world.

19th century British prime minister Benjamin Disraeli :

" The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes".
 
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Have you been looking at the cover of Abbey Road a bit too much ..................When someone says..You couldnt make it up. that clearly does not apply to you.
Well aware it sounds far fetched.
But do the research yourself.
Look up a clear face up close pic of Kennedy from his time in office and one of Jimmy Carter when he became president.

Bear in mind there is 14 year gap so will be certain amount of aging but eyes, nose, lip shape and ear shape stay relatively the same.
Know there are plenty of similar looking people in the world and we all have seen lookalikes of people we know .
Just seems too much of a coincidence in the case of kennedy/Carter, especially within the same line of work.

After the assassination of "JFK" , then all of the conspiracy theories start circulating bout CIA involvement, mafia etc. Where did all these ideas spring forth from? Well possibly from what "JFK" had circulated himself previous about a conspiracy going on behind closed doors within the government. Then after he is supposedly assassinated this narrative can be given as the reason of his apparent death.
Think about it logically why would a president present supposed secret information to the general public. Makes no sense as general public can't do anything about it anyway. It just imbeds the idea of government conspiracy to destroy America into the minds of people. It's playing into fears and emotions of people, and reinforces the idea of living in a real democracy when in fact they don't.
Powers that be present the illusion of a publicly elected government and play out different stages dramas presented as official narratives, all for power and control over the masses.
These tricks have been going on for thousands of years by those in power.
In ye olden days the king told his subjects don't be wandering to far as there be dragons beyond the kingdom boundaries. When the people collectively accept the kings word as truth not questioning ot nor knowing any different, they are easier to control. People then promote this narrative to each other furthering the lie, and the power the king gains over them.
The king is deciding the circumstances of their lives .
The words 'reality' and 'real estate' both came from 'regal' meaning royal. The real estate being the property of the king and his peasants lived in it, so he got to decide the everyday reality of their lives.

As time went on the tricks got more imaginative and clever and complex. Certainly more so since the invention of television, a means to broadcast intentions and ideas to the modern peasants.


There is nothing new under the sun
 

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Well aware it sounds far fetched.
But do the research yourself.
Look up a clear face up close pic of Kennedy from his time in office and one of Jimmy Carter when he became president.

Bear in mind there is 14 year gap so will be certain amount of aging but eyes, nose, lip shape and ear shape stay relatively the same.
Know there are plenty of similar looking people in the world and we all have seen lookalikes of people we know .
Just seems too much of a coincidence in the case of kennedy/Carter, especially within the same line of work.

After the assassination of "JFK" , then all of the conspiracy theories start circulating bout CIA involvement, mafia etc. Where did all these ideas spring forth from? Well possibly from what "JFK" had circulated himself previous about a conspiracy going on behind closed doors within the government. Then after he is supposedly assassinated this narrative can be given as the reason of his apparent death.
Think about it logically why would a president present supposed secret information to the general public. Makes no sense as general public can't do anything about it anyway. It just imbeds the idea of government conspiracy to destroy America into the minds of people. It's playing into fears and emotions of people, and reinforces the idea of living in a real democracy when in fact they don't.
Powers that be present the illusion of a publicly elected government and play out different stages dramas presented as official narratives, all for power and control over the masses.
These tricks have been going on for thousands of years by those in power.
In ye olden days the king told his subjects don't be wandering to far as there be dragons beyond the kingdom boundaries. When the people collectively accept the kings word as truth not questioning ot nor knowing any different, they are easier to control. People then promote this narrative to each other furthering the lie, and the power the king gains over them.
The king is deciding the circumstances of their lives .
The words 'reality' and 'real estate' both came from 'regal' meaning royal. The real estate being the property of the king and his peasants lived in it, so he got to decide the everyday reality of their lives.

As time went on the tricks got more imaginative and clever and complex. Certainly more so since the invention of television, a means to broadcast intentions and ideas to the modern peasants.


There is nothing new under the sun
There is way to much information out there to debunk your idea. Kennedy was shot and my own belief (after a long time looking) is that Oswald pulled the trigger, Were their others involved ,I do not know. What happened when Ruby shot Oswald..Judging by the timing etc, it was an opportunistic moment and he took it..


Id recommend you watch the documentary ,the men who killed Kennedy. It is a riveting 10 part doc which presents different theories, eg the mob , LBJ ,cover ups. If you watched the episode on LBJ ,you would be convinced it was him.. If you watch the mob one..you would be convinced it was them .

Remember when this happened , everything was up in the air , protocol was not followed because to each and everyone involved this was not something that happened everyday .Hence thew conspiracy theories regarding autopsies ,swapping bodies, fake x rays, missing frames from the film . If you pick at each scab individually it comes apart.
Our parish priest when I was growing up was there .. He said it happened quickly and people were instantly confused, He also said at the time that instantly conspiracy spread through the crowd like wildfire.
 

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Our parish priest when I was growing up was there .. He said it happened quickly and people were instantly confused, He also said at the time that instantly conspiracy spread through the crowd like wildfire.
He was in Dallas at the time? Wow
 
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There is way to much information out there to debunk your idea .

.Hence thew conspiracy theories
Loads of info on any subject and events doesn't prove anything, unless all info is direct evidence provable as such, and publicly available for all to investigate.

Books, documentaries and films on real life events are not credible sources of information without proof, irrespective of how well written and presented they are. Even if there are pausable ideas contained within them, still doesn't prove much untill direct evidence collaborates all genuine facts available.

The conspiracy theories arising from the people on the ground that day were fostered by the establishment to further confuse and bewilder the general public.

All media is tightly controlled by all western governments through censorship and distribution. So any real published proof of what really went on that day would never see the light of day.

This wasn't my findings on JFK. Came across this a number of years ago on a website of numerous theories on the event. The more I looked into it, the more it became obvious. Comparing the two face photos side by side the facial similarities are overwhelming.
All prominent politicians have to be able to deal with people publicly, speak publicly to large crowds and hold a certain amount of charisma, charm or quirks that holds people's attention. Just like stage actors have been trained to do.
Pre 1980s America used the smooth or serious type character. After that mostly the clown characters , reagan, George W, Clinton and Trump. All drew huge attention on themselves through bumbling and scandals. Obama used for racial equality. They all essentially actors, given a script to distribute to the masses. Ironically reagan was actually a professional actor early in his career making cowboy films, then he went on to attempt to devolop the star wars program.:)

Money runs everything. Those with the most own all industry thus owning any given society. The few control the majority through a complex pyramid scheme. The illusion of democracy is promoted to cover this, keeping people a Slave to the system and dependent on it, thus returning profit via tax to the hierarchy and sustaining their wealth and power.
 

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Christ can you believe there are still people who think Oswald killed Kennedy? That's some real dunce-corner stuff.

On any rifle of that era with a mounted scope after firing it resighting is necessary.
The idiot commentator in that crap video is unaware of this basic fact.

The idiot doing the shooting is also unaware that all rifle bolts require greasing and maintenance.
If it is stiff as he obviously finds it then the moron knows nothing about normal gun maintenance.
It is also clear the gun he is using has a defective bolt action clear from his first attempt to place a round into the breech.It looks like an old badly maintained weapon.
A so called expert marksman would have drawn attention to that fact .

Oswald’s weapon as far as I know was new.
 
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Christ can you believe there are still people who think Oswald killed Kennedy? That's some real dunce-corner stuff.

Thosm idiots in that shyte video clearly know zilch about rifles.
The numbers of innacurate and misleading statements are incredible.

Why are you posting crap like that?
 

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Christ can you believe there are still people who think Oswald killed Kennedy? That's some real dunce-corner stuff.

Take 2

After much research (by research i mean reading different opinions etc ) I think Oswold did it.
 
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