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[SwordOfStCatherine]

Brilliant track. I like the first comment on the youtube page below this, very true,

"... he is to Techno what Chuck Berry is to rock n roll..."

This rave and techno music I find utterly demonic, and it has done a tremendous amount of damage not only to your generation but to my own. Oh and roc_ Speedfreak over on the other place told me that she is your other half. It is interesting to me that the divinity of war in the Kabbalah, Maronit, is a goddess. Of course most of the ancient Semitic divinities of war were also goddesses. The relationship of femininity to violence is a subject that deeply interests me.

 

[roc_]

This rave and techno music I find utterly demonic, and it has done a tremendous amount of damage not only to your generation but to my own. Oh and roc_ Speedfreak over on the other place told me that she is your other half. It is interesting to me that the divinity of war in the Kabbalah, Maronit, is a goddess. Of course most of the ancient Semitic divinities of war were also goddesses. The relationship of femininity to violence is a subject that deeply interests me.

Yeah, once upon a time we heard the exact same thing about Rock 'n' Roll, too. And Jazz. And pretty much all black music.

Funny, the ultra-conservative, nonprogressive, right-wing folk always casting these type of 'demonic' accusations were the same type of "white, God-fearing, ultra-respectable" folk at the forefront of the following type of "righteous" behaviour in their own eras.

I suppose it is up to each person to judge for themselves what comes from the devil, and what doesn't.

 

[roc_]

Back to the music...

 

[roc_]

Back on topic.
Do you not think, that without white culture there would never have been black music as featured in the O.P
The white man invented the guitar, the piano, and practically every other musical instrument bar the bongo drums.
Not to mention electricity and the loud speaker, which would have left Jimi Hendrix a bit idle...

Great documentary below about Robert Moog, the inventor of the synthesiser.

Of course, this was the instrument without which 'techno' would never have come to be.

It is interesting also because it touches on the character of what we might call 'transcendent' insights an artist or creator receives that spur creativity (good flavour of this given within first couple of minutes).

 

[Old School Nationalist]

Yeah, once upon a time we heard the exact same thing about Rock 'n' Roll, too. And Jazz. And pretty much all black music.

Funny, the ultra-conservative, nonprogressive, right-wing folk always casting these type of 'demonic' accusations were the same type of "white, God-fearing, ultra-respectable" folk at the forefront of the following type of "righteous" behaviour in their own eras.

I suppose it is up to each person to judge for themselves what comes from the devil, and what doesn't.

Are these picture from Israel?

 

[Heraclitus]

This rave and techno music I find utterly demonic, and it has done a tremendous amount of damage not only to your generation but to my own. Oh and roc_ Speedfreak over on the other place told me that she is your other half. It is interesting to me that the divinity of war in the Kabbalah, Maronit, is a goddess. Of course most of the ancient Semitic divinities of war were also goddesses. The relationship of femininity to violence is a subject that deeply interests me.

 

[SwordOfStCatherine]

In your Religion classes in school was the devil and demonic activity ever discussed?

 

[Heraclitus]

This one is a classic.

 

[Heraclitus]

In your Religion classes in school was the devil and demonic activity ever discussed?

Not that I can remember.

But I can remember one near retirement, pre vatican 11 priest who was a bit fire and brimstone.
He taught confirmation prep classes in the primary school I attended.

I remember asking him how we could be fully intact in the supposed afterlife if someone who gets so much as a knock to the head, or starved of oxygen, is severely brain damaged.

I remember him struggling with a reply, before finally throwing in the towel.
"Do ye want to make yer confirmation or not?

I was looking forward to my few hundred quid.
So I kept shtum. angelenatic

 

[SwordOfStCatherine]

Not that I can remember.

But I can remember one near retirement, pre vatican 11 priest who was a bit fire and brimstone.
He taught confirmation prep classes in the primary school I attended.

I remember asking him how we could be fully intact in the supposed afterlife if someone who gets so much as a knock to the head, or starved of oxygen, is severely brain damaged.

I remember him struggling with a reply, before finally throwing in the towel.
"Do ye want to make yer confirmation or not?

I was looking forward to my few hundred quid.
So I kept shtum. angelenatic

Well focusing on Divine Justice isn't quite the same thing as focusing on the devil and demonic activity. Something that I have observed is that Prods- or at least Ulster Prods, I don't know to much about Southern ones- focus on the Satan and his activities a tremendous amount more than Catholics do. Talking about Confirmation did you take the "Pledge"? I believe that is something which is actually an evil custom as nearly all kids break, I only know one person who kept it and she is particularly Pious, and even expected to by the adults. To me it comes across as mocking God.

 

[Heraclitus]

Well focusing on Divine Justice isn't quite the same thing as focusing on the devil and demonic activity. Something that I have observed is that Prods- or at least Ulster Prods, I don't know to much about Southern ones- focus on the Satan and his activities a tremendous amount more than Catholics do. Talking about Confirmation did you take the "Pledge"? I believe that is something which is actually an evil custom as nearly all kids break, I only know one person who kept it and she is particularly Pious, and even expected to by the adults. To me it comes across as mocking God.

I think there was a pledge, but I don't think it was mandatory.

 

[roc_]

This one is a classic.

Thanks for that. Yes, an inspiring period of history in the UK. From the early eighties and the illegal warehouse party scene in London, up to the early nineties (when inappropriate drugs, attitudes, new laws and commercialisation began to destroy its innocence), this music brought together black and white, rich and poor, privately educated and state educated, gay and straight, the cool and the not-so-cool. It demolished all types of barriers and hang-ups. At least for a time and a place. So I know those who know nothing about it on here will loudly detract from it, from lofty moral perches. But so what.