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Blog The BBC finally admits that MI5 secretly vetted its employees

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Most of us probably suspected as much over the years but the BBC has finally come clean.
MI5 vetting of journalists and broadcasters right up to 1990 proves to be factual and can no longer to be written off "conspiracy theory"

The vetting files: How the BBC kept out ‘subversives’

A memo from 1984 gives a run-down of organisations on the banned list. On the left, there were the Communist Party of Great Britain, the Socialist Workers Party, the Workers Revolutionary Party and the Militant Tendency. By this stage there were also concerns about movements on the right - the National Front and the British National Party.

A banned applicant did not need to be a member of these organisations - association was enough.

If MI5 found something against a candidate, it made one of three "assessments" in a kind of league table:

  • Category "A" stated: "The Security Service advises that the candidate should not be employed in a post offering direct opportunity to influence broadcast material for a subversive purpose."
  • Category "B" was less restrictive. The Security Service "advised" against employment "unless it is decided that other considerations are overriding".
  • Category "C" stated that the information against a candidate should not "necessarily debar" them but the BBC "may prefer to make other arrangements" if the post offered "exceptional opportunity" for subversive activity.
The BBC procedure was in principle never to employ someone in Category "A", though a few did get through the net. This contradicted its public position that the BBC controlled all appointments. In theory it did. In practice it gave that choice to MI5 in Category "A" cases.

No doubt similar behaviour is still at play in the vetting of the smiling faces of media today,
but now when people scoff and refer to such notions as "conspiracy theory" you can ask
whether they would have also called it a "conspiracy theory" if you had claimed this in 1990!

The BBC finally admits that MI5 secretly vetted its employees, an open secret for generations

MI5 vetted thousands of BBC staff to keep ‘evil’ and ‘subversive’ lefties out

Clarion: MI5 secretly controls hiring firing BBC staff, Observer 18 August 1985
 
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what a joke. what happened to all my comments.

to be honest - if i was observing this thread earlier in the day and wasnt involved - id imagine godsdog might be a type of gatekeeper preventing a critical debate. this thread has the potential to talk about intelligence agencies control over the populations mind - but u want to just smell urself. you obviously got the hump becuz u made urself look silly and demanded action. well at least i know ur doggy gender now - beeyatch! u can stick ur thread up ur hole. i will start a better one about intelligence agencies control over media and will not delete anyones comments. as to me - that is something an intelligence agency wud do.
 
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I remember John Snow saying in an interview that once you get to a certain level in the British media you get an invitation to work for the secret services. He said he refused the invitation himself.
It actually extends to the private sector too in a way. I worked for a company years ago where you didn't get to the top unless you were a Freemason. I had an English friend who was offered a promotion to a senior level and he accepted it. He then got the invite to join the lodge, but when he refused to become a mason, the promotion didn't materialise and he moved on. When I realised how limited my prospects were, I moved on. Excommunication was never an option for me. I was fully aware that I was vetted by MI5. I was never allowed to be near any UK royals despite the opportunity arising a couple of times. I didn't want to meet Lizzy anyway.

On the funny side, I knew a Yorkshire man who was banned from such interactions after he greeted the queen with "Eh up love". Oh the horror!

You can imagine my surprise when I first heard that there was a masonic temple in the building.
 

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I remember John Snow saying in an interview that once you get to a certain level in the British media you get an invitation to work for the secret services. He said he refused the invitation himself.

I know a journalist personally who did work experience at the BBC back in the day. She couldn't believe the amount of legal waivers she had to sign. She said she was there signing those for a good hour before even starting. She said it was just a mountain of stuff you had to sign that you couldn't comment on and that was just to get in the door.
 
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Most of us probably suspected as much over the years but the BBC has finally come clean.
MI5 vetting of journalists and broadcasters right up to 1990 proves to be factual and can no longer to be written off "conspiracy theory"

The vetting files: How the BBC kept out ‘subversives’



No doubt similar behaviour is still at play in the vetting of the smiling faces of media today,
but now when people scoff and refer to such notions as "conspiracy theory" you can ask
whether they would have also called it a "conspiracy theory" if you had claimed this in 1990!

The BBC finally admits that MI5 secretly vetted its employees, an open secret for generations

MI5 vetted thousands of BBC staff to keep ‘evil’ and ‘subversive’ lefties out

Clarion: MI5 secretly controls hiring firing BBC staff, Observer 18 August 1985


Highly interesting thread, GD. The BBC had its fingers in many pies. Hugh Carleton-Greene (one of Graham Greene's brothers), Director-General of the BBC throughout most of the 1960's, cut his teeth working for the BBC's German Service during WWII. After the war, he played a pivotal role in the creation in 1952 of Tagesschau, to this day far and away the most popular news program in Germany, broadcast by NDR from Hamburg, at that time in the British zone of occupation. It was no accident that German state-run news would be birthed by a seasoned purveyor of pro-British propaganda.

One word for news in German is Nachrichten. The name of Germany's intelligence service is Bundesnachrichtendienst. The comparison brims with irony.
 
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