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COVID-19 Spain Euthanizing the old - COVID19

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This video is disturbing.
In it, a doctor explains that in Madrid, over 65s are having their ventilators taken away and given to younger people.
They then are Sedating the elderly to die alone.

Sedation is normal in the dying process, it's important not to put the wrong inflection to the word.

Yes not enough ventilators = horrific decisions. I completely empathise with the doctor and the trauma this is inflicting on him and others like him who have to make these decisions no person should ever have to make. This is why social distancing etc are so important for us here, Spain and Italy offer glimpses into the future.
 

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Just ask yourself what are YOU going to do when they do this to your mother or your grandmother/father.

What would you really do if that happened right now, you get the call, "I'm sorry Mr X, it started last night and they passed very quickly, there was no pain", poor grandmother probably being tortured for days with no air or food, the worst couple of days/weeks of their lives.

What are you going to do.
 

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That Irish team who made DIY ventilators need to get in touch with these countries.
 

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Some very bad decisions were made in Spain.


Bearing flags and banners denouncing gender violence, a crowd of purple-clad women paraded down one of Madrid's main avenues toward the city center, chanting over booming drums.
One protester held a sign that read: "Machismo kills more than coronavirus."
Strange that there is a certain 'machismo' in this type of feminism too...
 
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Some very bad decisions were made in Spain.




Strange that there is a certain 'machismo' in this type of feminism too...
Clowns are accelerating things, and it's to the benefit of bringing back order in the end when those pushing chaos are this retarded, there is nothing new under the sun, it's just a variation of X weighted down by Y with Z sticking its head above the parapet every now and again like this virus, and hopefully we are in a position to be around for the redirection of some common sense being allowed to come to the fore within the general populace once all other outcomes pushed by the snake charmers have bitten the herd enough for them to look for an antidote to the latest variation of the poz pushed on them.
 

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Germany has at least 25,000 ventilators. They aren't sharing them with Italy or Spain. Ireland has about 200 though Harris said there are about 500. But he is a very well known liar.
Well, there is based in this country a company that makes 500 a week. No excuses for the Govt if we run low, the path is laid before them.
 

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How difficult is to just build more ventilators ffs, mass produce them, by lunch time tomorrow, no exceptions, don't go to tender or any such nonsense, move heaven and earth and get it done. Get. it. done.

Leo Varadkar, the clown, comparing himself to the men of 1916 the other day, and they're talking about not having enough ventilators and ICU units, well known technology that we could absolutely emergency produce.
 

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Germany has at least 25,000 ventilators. They aren't sharing them with Italy or Spain. Ireland has about 200 though Harris said there are about 500. But he is a very well known liar.
Are the Germans sharing with anyone ?
 

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Just ask yourself what are YOU going to do when they do this to your mother or your grandmother/father.

What would you really do if that happened right now, you get the call, "I'm sorry Mr X, it started last night and they passed very quickly, there was no pain", poor grandmother probably being tortured for days with no air or food, the worst couple of days/weeks of their lives.

What are you going to do.
Revenge
 

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Very grim indeed. The hospital where I work has approx 77 beds left and its a major Dublin hospital .These are general bed and not ICU . and this is very early days.

Ventilators are key and something needs to be done yesterday ..The Government must be pressurized RIGHT NOW because literally every second counts . Production needs to be ramped up , every company that possibly can should be working on this ASAP . Having a few hundred ventilators is going to be carnage . Ventilators are more important than wages at the moment.


Realistically ..If you get the virus , now is the time to get it because there will be nothing there for you if it ramps up.

The state is not telling its people what it is doing ..
 
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