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We are not being given the excess death rate caused by covid,
It would be nice to be given a spreadsheet detailing the number of deaths grouped by each cause of death as compared to the average numbers from previous years.
Some deaths at the moment would be less such as Road Traffic Accidents, some should be about the same such as heart attacks and seasonal flu and those numbers could be cancelled out against the equivalent numbers of previous years

If data was presented in this manner it would be possible to see exactly how many additional deaths are the result of Covid19.

It is all a bit opaque at the moment being presented these Covid19 numbers in isolation, it is hard to get those numbers into perspective and in particular it is hard to know how they compare with the peaks and troughs of seasonal flu.
 

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It could well be the placebo effect that made him sick.

With the 24/7 fear porn from the media a percentage of the population will get sick from that alone.
Just reading Napolean Hills 'Laws of success', Suggesting to the concious mind is powerful indeed.
 

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Well a friend, a fit man in his forties has just been hospitalised with this 'non existent virus'.

I am well willing to consider all kinds of possibilities about the virus including that it may serve some elite purpose or even be a dry run for something to come or an excuse to quicken global cooperation and crack down on individual rights. Just don't tell me it does not exist.
Yeah, something deadly does seem to exist. Where it came from, how and why are the big questions. Also how best to deal with it?
 

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Well they're about to quadruple the amount of tests so you will see a quadrupling of 'new cases'.
They still won't release a figure on how many people who tested positive have fully recovered....
It wouldn't look too good for the con job.
People are going to be dying for years in nursing homes. Is Nursing Home Death Watch going to be the new reality TV show?
 

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More evidence of fraudulent data creation. This of course will make impossible to ever know the true effects of Covid, which is likely the whole point:

 
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More evidence of fraudulent data creation. This of course will make impossible to ever know the true effects of Covid, which is likely the whole point:

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The WHO has provided a second code, U07.2, for clinical or epidemiological diagnosis of COVID-19 where a
laboratory confirmation is inconclusive or not available. Because laboratory test results are not typically
reported on death certificates in the U.S., NCHS is not planning to implement U07.2 for mortality statistics.
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Will COVID-19 be the underlying cause?
The underlying cause depends upon what and where conditions are reported on the death certificate.
However, the rules for coding and selection of the underlying cause of death are expected to result in COVID-
19 being the underlying cause more often than not.
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What happens if the terms reported on the death certificate indicate uncertainty?
If the death certificate reports terms such as “probable COVID-19” or “likely COVID-19,” these terms would be
assigned the new ICD code. It Is not likely that NCHS will follow up on these cases.
If “pending COVID-19 testing” is reported on the death certificate, this would be considered a pending record.
In this scenario, NCHS would expect to receive an updated record, since the code will likely result in R99. In
this case, NCHS will ask the states to follow up to verify if test results confirmed that the decedent had COVID-
19.
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Should “COVID-19” be reported on the death certificate only with a confirmed test?
COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is
assumed to have caused or contributed to death. Certifiers should include as much detail as possible based
on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc. If the decedent had other chronic
conditions such as COPD or asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in Part
II. (See attached Guidance for Certifying COVID-19 Deaths)
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I think they are just following what the WHO tells them to put down, the lapdogs to the chinese and god knows who else, and if someone had the virus and it is suspected his worry of the virus or shortness of breath due to a cough he had from it, caused him to fall off the roof and die, then by these guidelines you could imagine someone putting that down on the death certificate as contributing to his death, which in turn would be added to the count, but obviously I'm being extreme here, but there is an agenda being pushed regards numbers. Why I do not know.
 

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I think they are just following what the WHO tells them to put down, the lapdogs to the chinese and god knows who else, and if someone had the virus and it is suspected his worry of the virus or shortness of breath due to a cough he had from it, caused him to fall off the roof and die, then by these guidelines you could imagine someone putting that down on the death certificate as contributing to his death, which in turn would be added to the count, but obviously I'm being extreme here, but there is an agenda being pushed regards numbers. Why I do not know.
Very disturbing and sinister
 
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People are going to be dying for years in nursing homes. Is Nursing Home Death Watch going to be the new reality TV show?
Not here they won't. They imposed the old folks lock down and they died like flies when they figured their family abandoned them with no visits. A lot fewer people will send their parents there. For 7500 a month you can hire 3 Mexicans to sleep with grandpa 24 hours a day to keep him warm in the basement.
You will see a falloff in homes here shortly.

I doubt that facility in Norwood has taken in a single person this month
 
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Very disturbing and sinister
Its a very good idea for a group like the WHO to be there to set standards and what defines the code for the different causes of deaths, so we can not only get reliable stats in your own country, but also so you can compare across countries statistically. I'm assuming it's the WHO that most countries are following as the general guidelines for this ?. But it seems to me they are being pushed as another unelected state as father group like the UN who think they can tell countries around the world what to do and misdirect us into never being able to actually direct ourselves again.

You cannot follow a generic solution to this, reacting based on instructions from a globalist institution like the WHO which have obviously been politicised making it even worse. You must act from the start as an independent nation with its own set of requirements, benefits and limitations.

Would love to know the breakdown on sex and age group regards how people think this is being handled ?
 

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Not here they won't. They imposed the old folks lock down and they died like flies when they figured their family abandoned them with no visits. A lot fewer people will send their parents there. For 7500 a month you can hire 3 Mexicans to sleep with grandpa 24 hours a day to keep him warm in the basement.
You will see a falloff in homes here shortly.

I doubt that facility in Norwood has taken in a single person this month
Some good can come out of this then. Horrific the way the oldsters have been treated, truly horrific...hopefully victims are in a better place now than those sjtholes at least. Must be awful to have an elderly relative you cared about in current climate...
 
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