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Blog Should welfare recipients have to queue in post offices during coronavirus lockdown?



If this is indeed a pandemic then surely poorer people on the dole etc
should not be forced to go into queues in post offices every single week risking coronavirus infection
just to sign their name purely out of some Mary Hanafin inspired bureaucratic exercise in spite.

These are people in society least able to afford to deal with the costs of self isolation, hand gels, masks, etc etc
and the ones least likely to have private medical insurance etc

The Department should move all welfare payments from post offices to
direct payments into bank accounts to minimise completely unnecessary queueing in post offices until this passes.

Some welfare payments are already done this way but currently some are not given this option.
This is an easy change which would significantly reduce the risk of getting sick for those at the bottom of society.
 

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When my parents became eligible for the state pension relatively recently they were asked to give their bank accounts details for payment. I understand you only collect ion the PO if you don't have a bank account.

I have heard anecdotally that some OAPs who have a bank account opt to collect in the local post office as it gets them out, they get to know the staff if its a small PO and the regulars in the queue. It reduces their social isolation which they may feel if single/widowed and not family nearby.
 
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When my parents became eligible for the state pension relatively recently they were asked to give their bank accounts details for payment. I understand you only collect ion the PO if you don't have a bank account.

I have heard anecdotally that some OAPs who have a bank account opt to collect in the local post office as it gets them out, they get to know the staff if its a small PO and the regulars in the queue. It reduces their social isolation which they may feel if single/widowed and not family nearby.

That's the case for OAPs and disability sure
But Jobseekers allowance is only payable at post offices.

This is an easy temporary fix that would cost nothing and reduce spread amongst the poorest in society.
They could reverse it later after the virus has passed.
 
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And pensioners should be spared likewise.

not only spared but required to get it through their bank and not to attend post offices for the time being.
they are high risk.
 

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not only spared but required to get it through their bank and not to attend post offices for the time being.
they are high risk.


Specially with those electronic pens that are probably never cleaned.
 
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Latest Customer Notice COVID-19 14/03/20
COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Information for Employers and Employees

If you’ve been to an affected region in the last 14 days, or have been in close contact with a confirmed or probable case of COVID-19 in the last 14 days AND you have any of the following symptoms:

a cough, fever (high temperature), breathing difficulties, shortness of breath , please phone your doctor immediately for medical advice or phone 112 or 999.

Do not attend any Intreo Centre or public office of the Department in person - even if you have been invited or have an appointment.

Signing has been suspended with effect from 12th March 2020 until further notice. Weekly casual dockets will continue to be required as normal.

Instead you should visit MyWelfare to access a range of online services (if you have a Public Service Card) or Telephone our National Call Centre on 1890 800 024 or 01 248 1398

 
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Unofficially (no official statement made) the department will now consider requests from jobseekers with high risk vulnerable relatives
to have their payment moved temporarily to their bank account instead of the post office.

If you are a jobseeker with a high risk partner or family member then you should request this option
to avoid high risk queueing in urban post offices.
 

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I would imagine that the powers that be should be eradicating the queuing system asap . but they will probably figure out a way to make it longer.
 
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It's a tough one, paying into bank a/c's makes fraud on a massive scale much easier......especially people who have left the country and are no longer eligible to collect, but have collected 10's of 1000's, there have been a no. of cases of this.

It also gets around facial recognition, where people are claiming multiple claims under different ID's in different locations.
 
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It's a tough one, paying into bank a/c's makes fraud on a massive scale much easier......especially people who have left the country and are no longer eligible to collect, but have collected 10's of 1000's, there have been a no. of cases of this.

It also gets around facial recognition, where people are claiming multiple claims under different ID's in different locations.

The scammers will just go on disability instead and that means they get it paid into their bank account anyway.
So punishing everyone else on jobseekers serves no useful purpose except humiliation and spite
and monitoring and control of their movements.

The figures for fraud are actually quite low and most welfare overpayments are due to errors made by the department itself.
However it serves the agendas of the department to find some pole who somehow gets away with fraud once in a blue moon
and then plaster the case all over the media to make it seem like fraud is rife.

There is no "massive fraud" at all. Most poorer people are basically decent and honest.
It's the white collar c*nts in banks etc that you really need to watch, but somehow we never do!!
 
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The scammers will just go on disability instead and that means they get it paid into their bank account anyway.
So punishing everyone else on jobseekers serves no useful purpose except humiliation and spite
and monitoring and control of their movements.

The figures for fraud are actually quite low and most welfare overpayments are due to errors made by the department itself.
However it serves the agendas of the department to find some pole who somehow gets away with fraud once in a blue moon
and then plaster the case all over the media to make it seem like fraud is rife.

There is no "massive fraud" at all. Most poorer people are basically decent and honest.
It's the white collar c*nts in banks etc that you really need to watch, but somehow we never do!!

That sounds familiar to me for some reason.....on second thoughts, better not.
 
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