Should Stalin have made a Separate Peace with Hitler in 1945?

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Hitlers valet was not privy to high level discussions.
Anything he wrote or said needs a strong filter.
Barberossa was very much Hitlers own creation according to all the sources I have read.
Yes some military agreed but there was also much concern about the timetable and the readiness of the army for such an undertaking.
All these objections were brushed aside mainly by Hitler who saw himself as a unique man of destiny who could be assassinated at any moment and had to act fast.
T hat is what happened and the German Army went to Russia badly prepared because of haste.

Well, he was party to Hitler's reactions and mood after those discussions. We will never know, but my feeling is that the generals did want to attack Russia and they did believe they could get the job done before the winter.
 

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Stop Name Calling please
We are trying to have an adult conversation here. Could you clear off and stop trolling -otherwise I will have to report you.
You're suggesting that two madmen might have done something that was against their nature and trying to weave an adult conversation out of that you clown.
 

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Well, he was party to Hitler's reactions and mood after those discussions. We will never know, but my feeling is that the generals did want to attack Russia and they did believe they could get the job done before the winter.
The more perceptive of the generals did not feel that way.
It is understandable given the fantastic rapid success of the German Army in defeating Poland and France in matters of weeks that everybody was on a high.
However voices on the General Staff were raised in objection.

What we do know is that all objections were over ridden by Hitler I think who said " Just kick the door and the whole rotten structure will come down in 6 weeks" .

The primary objection was that the generals knew they were opening a war on two froNts, the very thing that had crippled Germany in ww1.

Many of these generals had experience of ww1 and knew full well the dangers of a two front war for Germany.
The opening of any Russian front prior to a resolution of the war with England would have been anathema to them.

I have to conclude that Hitler valet was either lying or completely misinformed.
 

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Re your thread title I could never see a peace settlement happening between Adolph and Joseph.

They were ideologically incompatible at many levels and given the horrendous losses of life on the Eastern front, that became an all war of annihilation, total victory was the end result desired by either side.

The Russians were never ever ever going to trust Hitler after he violated the Ribbentrop Molotov peace pact.
Why would they especially when they obtained the military upper hand after the battle of Kursk.

No , all out conquest of the German territory was the only game in town .
 

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Re your thread title I could never see a peace settlement happening between Adolph and Joseph.

They were ideologically incompatible at many levels and given the horrendous losses of life on the Eastern front, that became an all war of annihilation, total victory was the end result desired by either side.

The Russians were never ever ever going to trust Hitler after he violated the Ribbentrop Molotov peace pact.
Why would they especially when they obtained the military upper hand after the battle of Kursk.

No , all out conquest of the German territory was the only game in town .

No doubt that's true, but if Stalin had done the unthinkable and halted the Red Army at the German border, I'd say we'd still have the Soviet Union today. And Germany would still be German.
 

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There just making up stuff and reporting posts that don't fit in with their sick narrative.
 

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The DDR was a armed was socialist-patriotic state. So something of the spirit of Hitler lived on in that. That's how.

Yes, the DDR certainly did have a lot in common with National Socialist Germany.
 

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The DDR was a armed was socialist-patriotic state. So something of the spirit of Hitler lived on in that. That's how.
Perhaps.
But very little and the connection is tenuous considering how the east Germany economy under Stalin and his succesors was a miserable failure for all of its existence.
 

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Yes, the DDR certainly did have a lot in common with National Socialist Germany.
Not really when you look at how national socialst Germany,s economy surged forward hugely between 1933 and 1948.
The economy of East Germany under the D D R never performed well at all.
 
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