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Search in Spain for the remains of our national hero Red Hugh O'Donnell

Conall Gulban

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There will be no appetite for such, his re-burial in Dún na nGall would create a true nationalist shrine and rallying point untainted by the troubles or current toxic liberalism, not convenient for a quisling administration !!!!
I'm sure they'll tell us Red Hugh was fighting for diversity or trannies bathroom rights or some such.
 

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There will be no appetite for such, his re-burial in Dún na nGall would create a true nationalist shrine and rallying point untainted by the troubles or current toxic liberalism, not convenient for a quisling administration !!!!
It is a great rallying point for sure.
 

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If they do find him i hope they can do a DNA test so his many relatives in Ireland can link to their heritage. Although they would probably subvert it and tell us he was African or Middle Eastern or something.
 

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They represented the first time really that the Irish had gone outside to look for allies which was a norm for survival's sake throughout kingdoms in Europe and they should be saluted for that alone. The foreign lands brought the problem and only with the assistance of foreign lands might it be solved, they understood this. Maybe Ireland was just too fertile, our ancestors were too content to do early on the thing that we needed to do, keep abreast of foreign threats, new technologies and materials and incorporate them into our own lands - it would have been done if we had been united under one king before the threat showed up. The Vikings and Northmen were trained by the harshness of their own land to go abroad, conquerors come from hard lands. Lands with plenty, beware.
 

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They represented the first time really that the Irish had gone outside to look for allies which was a norm for survival's sake throughout kingdoms in Europe and they should be saluted for that alone. The foreign lands brought the problem and only with the assistance of foreign lands might it be solved, they understood this. Maybe Ireland was just too fertile, our ancestors were too content to do early on the thing that we needed to do, keep abreast of foreign threats, new technologies and materials and incorporate them into our own lands - it would have been done if we had been united under one king before the threat showed up. The Vikings and Northmen were trained by the harshness of their own land to go abroad, conquerors come from hard lands. Lands with plenty, beware.
Much of Irelands land is poor quality.
Since a mere 15,000 IRA chucked out the 45,000 strong Brit military establishment from the 26 counties about a 100 yars ago the Irish republic has indeed prospered.
Sadly foreign based interests are once again starting to gain undue traction on the island.
 

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Lip service.
Those bastards in RTE will seek to demonize Red Hugh for being a catholic .
Its just a matter of time.
No doubt Senator Fintan Warfield can tell us where Red Hugh stood on trans rights (Red Hugh wasn't big on illegal immigrants) once Fintan and his fist fk buddiers stop jerking off to Pornhub.
 

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Spanish archaeologists are currently searching for the remains of the legendary Red Hugh O'Donnell who died in Spain in 1602.

An informative report about the search now underway in Valladolid, Spain is set out in the Donegal News and is worth a read


According to the report in the Irish Times


'O’ Donnell, who was born in 1572, was according to a contemporary observer known not only by the “report of his beauty, his agility, and his noble deeds, but as a sworn foe to the Saxons of the Pale”.

He and his father-in-law Hugh Mor O’Neill, who between them controlled large parts of the north of Ireland, started the Nine Years War to drive the English out of Ireland. It began so promisingly in 1593, but eventually ended in defeat following the siege and then the Battle of Kinsale in late 1601 and early 1602.


He went to Spain 'where he hoped to again enlist the help of the Spanish king Philip III' to send another army to Ireland.

O’Donnell died en-route to Valladolid, a city in northwestern Spain, in July 1602 at the early age of thirty and legend has it that he was poisoned by an English spy although this has not been conclusively proven .

Donegal News reports 'According to Hispano-Irish Association member Carlos Burgos the high regard in which the king held The O’Donnell 'saw him honoured with a burial in which his body was transported in a chariot and was accompanied by a royal procession from the Royal Palace, in the Plaza de San Pablo up to the monastery of San Francisco.'

According to the Annals of the Four Masters

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His body was conveyed to the King's palace at Valladolid in a four-wheeled hearse, surrounded by countless numbers of the King's state officers, Council, and guards, with luminous torches and bright flambeaux of beautiful wax-light burning on each side of him. He was afterwards interred in the monastery of St. Francis, in the Chapter precisely, with veneration and honour, and in the most solemn manner that any of the Gaels had been ever interred in before. Masses, and many hymns, chaunts, and melodious canticles, were celebrated for the welfare of his soul; and his requiem was sung with becoming solemnity.'


I hope that they locate Red Hugh's remains and they are repatriated by the State and accorded the appropriate national honours due him.
A place I'd visit in a shot!
 

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Bones found on the fifth day of dig in search for Irish hero Red Hugh O'Donnell

Bones have been found on the fifth day of the search for the remains of Irish hero Red Hugh O'Donnell on the streets of Valladolid in Spain.

A part of a skull a femur and other bones have been found on the dig on the search for Red Hugh.

It is believed that O'Donnell's skeleton should be easily identifiable, as he had no big toes due to losing them to frostbite.


 

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What is the point of this search?
Seems pointless. Leave what's left of him in peace.
Are some greedy Donegal types already thinking of building a Tourist Center around his bones?

Poor Red Hugh bears a share for the Kinsale disaster, by the way. The British garrison were in trouble. O Neill wanted to starve them out. O Donnell was impatient and wanted to attack.
Bad call. Particularly when the attack was so botched.
 

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What is the point of this search?
Seems pointless. Leave what's left of him in peace.
Are some greedy Donegal types already thinking of building a Tourist Center around his bones?

Poor Red Hugh bears a share for the Kinsale disaster, by the way. The British garrison were in trouble. O Neill wanted to starve them out. O Donnell was impatient and wanted to attack.
Bad call. Particularly when the attack was so botched.
The Irish were starving too

- they could wait no longer

In fact I believe the Irish were on their last legs and this was really just a last throw of the dice before they upped camp and headed home....

The Spanish just sat on their butts and did nothing - their Commander was mediocre to say the least. His men were well supplied and were all professionals.

On landing he should have immediatedly got moving and sought to engage the English led forces in battle

- to sit around in a situation like that is to surrender the initiative to the enemy

- and yet that is exactly what he did!

Aodh Ruadh O'Donnell lost almost all his baggage train on his march south in order to meet O'Neill & Don Juan del Águila

- his forces were in dire straits from the start.

Yes we need the bones of one of our greatest Chieftains back in Ireland to help revive the National Spirit

- because we are now in the midst of being Conquered again.....
 

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Not much of a film downplaying entirely the naked injustices and hatreds that Protestants exhibited toward every Irish catholic of the time.
No mention either of the massive state supported land thefts carried out by Protestants during the Ulster Plantation.
Did you see it?
 
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