Say F'ck off to Mescosur --- Michael Fitzmaurice TD

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Red meat sales will decline as people look at health issues , protein , it's all about securing protein for future generations,

Farmers should be talking to dieticians and food scientists about essential foods, fatty acids, all the trends that are coming , climate change,
gathering as much information as possible about the right direction to go and then coming up with a plan,,

You can buy Protein milk in the shops 50gm per litre for 2 quid,, (its better/cheaper than eating 15 eggs) or buying mad expensive bodybuilder whey powder,

Cows and milk ,(whey comes from milk) more protein from the milk than the beef ? we should be investing in dairy herds , not beef herds,,

And it is more ethical and better to cut down on red meat in the long term,, it is a win win for Ireland if we divest into Whey protein , not beef,
So what do you do with the calves? If we are to turn away from beef, why are we allowing in South American beef. ?
 

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They are still talking about the 99,000 tonnes of South American beef being allowed into Europe, yet 240,000 tonnes came in last year. Europe exported 2.4 million tonnes.
The beef import is a smoke screen for a bigger plan.
 

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Yep. That about sums it up.

> 6000 lobbyists for corporations in brussels alone.
Someone's interests certainly get served by all this but you can be assured it ain't us ordinary joes!

It's also a great centralised control harness for empire.
Control of 28 countries through just one single easily bribed / blackmailed interface instead of 28.

The sooner people wake up to what the EU really is the better.
Except this is where your lack of understanding, and you are not alone, of the EU shines through. A trade deal is not passed by one small group of people or over a ew months. It takes years and it has to go through vast channels. The beauty of the EU is that there are so many countries, languages and institutions it is much much harder for big business to button hole select people and turn them than it is in Washington or London.
 

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Never mind the farmers .it is another nail in the coffin for Ireland.
We should be 1000% self sufficient in Dairy and fish but we are not . The housing issue is steering us towards a non owner occupier country..
The Euro army is looming , Medical care is more or less privatised.. the long waits are taking care of that.. We have the Kabal of Insurance companies screwing us ,we pat more than any other eu country. Alcohol prices is being put up because the bar industry is screwed and they think that will be the solution.. it will not be , greedy publicans and ridiculous insurance need to be tackled.Then there is the brutal 2040plan that is being imposed on us.

On the Home front..Our Government FFG/LAB/SF/IND and the rest all have their eye elsewhere and no one is looking after our country and its people.
We need someone who will not compromise at the helm for a while
 
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I can't claim to follow every Fitz statement, but I am sure I have never heard him critiquing Mass Immigration.
So he's not in the same pool on the Biggest Issue.
Immigration is not the biggest issue facing the country, it's one of them.

The national debt is what will break us, but mass 3rd world immigration will turn Ireland into a shit hole.
 
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As I understand it one person make all policy (including trade policy), that is Angela Merkel. She wanted her cars into South America and sold Irish farmer's out in exchange. Note how Phil Hogan appears to have been taken by surprise and is been tipped to take a second term.
 
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Never mind the farmers .it is another nail in the coffin for Ireland.
We should be 1000% self sufficient in Dairy and fish but we are not . The housing issue is steering us towards a non owner occupier country..
The Euro army is looming , Medical care is more or less privatised.. the long waits are taking care of that.. We have the Kabal of Insurance companies screwing us ,we pat more than any other eu country. Alcohol prices is being put up because the bar industry is screwed and they think that will be the solution.. it will not be , greedy publicans and ridiculous insurance need to be tackled.Then there is the brutal 2040plan that is being imposed on us.

On the Home front..Our Government FFG/LAB/SF/IND and the rest all have their eye elsewhere and no one is looking after our country and its people.
We need someone who will not compromise at the helm for a while
t does pat mean?
 

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These are the same farmers who didn't give a fock about the fishermen.

One arsehole on the protest said that 'Ireland didn't end at the M50 - it begins at the M50'.

Talk about arrogance!!

If I had a tenner for every time I've heard about 'roooral Ireland'......:D
 

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I was just thinking that even if a Nationalist government came to power there is nothing they could do if the EU wants to buy beef from South America.

All we could do is stop SA beef coming into Ireland.
 

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Farmers have historically had a disproportionate amount of influence in politics in Ireland
From the land commission on down, wheeling and dealing and fucking the rest of the country out of their fair share.
Farmers also were big supporters of the EU for purely selfish reasons now this seems to be coming back to bite them in the bollix

And in full disclosure, I grew up on a farm.
You may have grown up on a farm, by the sound of it you did not pull your weight or get involved enough to understand what farming is.

If you did, you would understand that everything you said is untrue.

The farmers are being led by politicians not the other way round. Farmers are the lowest paid workers in the country.
 
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