Richard Spencer On the Zizek vs Peterson Debate

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Not coming.....it's arrived! :)

a big fat bleating heart nothing bugger. trying to gain fame through jordans work. whining that he should have been quicker to come out in public... err it takes time for people to grow.. yawn...
 
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a big fat bleating heart nothing bugger. trying to gain fame through jordans work. whining that he shold have been quciker to come out in public... err it takes time for people to grow.. yawn...

I do think Peterson is quite good on his home territory of psychology, but on any other topic he's just some bloke with an opinion - and not a very well thought out opinion either.
 

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This is good.


And this is the original,

i stopped at the "is good" one when he started to complain about the lack of a suit. the "original". zizek "capitalism won" sums it up really some tunnel vision autistic types may moan on that a failed 170 year old dogma has failed to work with human nature. but the rest of the sane world has moved on... except as jorden points out the "insanely enthusiastic audience". who where millenniall in a whining way annoying! otherwise it show's improvement that you posted this clearly you are considering you Marxist position!
 

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i stopped at the "is good" one when he started to complain about the lack of a suit. the "original". zizek "capitalism won" sums it up really some tunnel vision autistic types may moan on that a failed 170 year old dogma has failed to work with human nature. but the rest of the sane world has moved on... except as jorden points out the "insanely enthusiastic audience". who where millenniall in a whining way annoying! otherwise it show's improvement that you posted this clearly you are considering you Marxist position!

Marx analyzed Capitalism perfectly. As Spencer points out, Jordan Peterson failed to find any flaws in Marx's analysis. Peterson just doesn't like Marx's remedies, but he has no remedies of his own to offer. There may be better remedies for Capitalism in the future than those proposed by Marx, but there will never be a better analysis of what Capitalism is, since Marx has fully explained what Capitalism is and how it functions.
 

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Source :Slavoj Žižek - Wikipedia
“In a very negative review of Žižek's magnum opus Less than Nothing, the British political philosopher John Gray attacked Žižek for his celebrations of violence, his failure to ground his theories in historical facts, and his ‘formless radicalism’ which, according to Gray, professes to be communist yet lacks the conviction that communism could ever be successfully realized. Gray concluded that Žižek's work, though entertaining, is intellectually worthless: 'Achieving a deceptive substance by endlessly reiterating an essentially empty vision, Žižek's work amounts in the end to less than nothing”

Sounds to me like Gray has summed up this chancer so why would anybody even bother watching a 2 hours plus long vid of him debating with anybody.
 

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a big fat bleating heart nothing bugger. trying to gain fame through jordans work. whining that he shold have been quciker to come out in public... err it takes time for people to grow.. yawn...
No surprises Peterson has suckered a few people on this board with his unique brand of horseshit. Go tidy your room Jon!! :ROFLMAO:
 

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Marx analyzed Capitalism perfectly. As Spencer points out, Jordan Peterson failed to find any flaws in Marx's analysis. Peterson just doesn't like Marx's remedies, but he has no remedies of his own to offer. There may be better remedies for Capitalism in the future than those proposed by Marx, but there will never be a better analysis of what Capitalism is, since Marx has fully explained what Capitalism is and how it functions.
Does Marx do an analysis on fractional reserve lending?
 

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what should people follow your enlightening advice. sorry to interrupt your lavatory cleaning!
Well it's an honest job compared to selling your arse on the docks as you do Jon. :p
And it's obviously affected your grip on reality if you trust this guy and his brand of snake oil!!
 

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Well it's an honest job compared to selling your arse on the docks as you do Jon. :p
And it's obviously affected your grip on reality if you trust this guy and his brand of snake oil!!
put up a coherent argument or go back to cleaning skid marks...
 
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Source :Slavoj Žižek - Wikipedia
“In a very negative review of Žižek's magnum opus Less than Nothing, the British political philosopher John Gray attacked Žižek for his celebrations of violence, his failure to ground his theories in historical facts, and his ‘formless radicalism’ which, according to Gray, professes to be communist yet lacks the conviction that communism could ever be successfully realized. Gray concluded that Žižek's work, though entertaining, is intellectually worthless: 'Achieving a deceptive substance by endlessly reiterating an essentially empty vision, Žižek's work amounts in the end to less than nothing”

Sounds to me like Gray has summed up this chancer so why would anybody even bother watching a 2 hours plus long vid of him debating with anybody.
i really tried to like him and listen to him but rambling minor ineffectual points combined with his hobo style... is better suited to book writing to a concerted die hard audience.
 
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