Polish MPs approve new benefits for mothers of four

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Ireland used to be synonymous with large families.

But our birthrate has been low since the late 1980s, which is 30 years now. I know Garret Fitzgerald felt the Irish birthrate was too high in the 80s, and he took certain steps to lower it.
High birth rates only make sense when a high percentage of Children don't survive to adulthood, as was the case a century ago.
 

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High birth rates only make sense when a high percentage of Children don't survive to adulthood, as was the case a century ago.
They may also make sense if the surplus children can invade a neighbouring continent, where the birthrates are low.
 

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CHAVAL:

"you're working for peanuts in some Latin American Sh1thole."

That's what some guy said about you, is it true?
Where?
Not making much money, but making lots of mani, eh?
 

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I was talking to my Polish barber about PiS and he's a big fan of them, the insight he gave was that when all the other parties' lost all their credibility in waves of corruption the Kaczynski twins' party was seen as clean as they never lied. The Polish are doing rather well, good to see they aren't Russian sycophants either. But Poland, like Hungary and some of these other nationalist states, are still not really 'nationalists' as they fundamentally don't care about power - only internal conservatism and self-preservation which will only get you so far.
 

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I was talking to my Polish barber about PiS and he's a big fan of them, the insight he gave was that when all the other parties' lost all their credibility in waves of corruption the Kaczynski twins' party was seen as clean as they never lied. The Polish are doing rather well, good to see they aren't Russian sycophants either. But Poland, like Hungary and some of these other nationalist states, are still not really 'nationalists' as they fundamentally don't care about power - only internal conservatism and self-preservation which will only get you so far.

If they were nationalists they wouldn't be pumping out people to settle UK and Ireland.
 

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If they were nationalists they wouldn't be pumping out people to settle UK and Ireland.
Well that's just the draw of moving from a poor country to a rich country which is hard to control. Forcing your population to remain breeds dissatisfaction. Poland's youth shouldn't be stolen by western European states, and it's not even 'brain drain' per se - a Latvian waitress working in Dublin is a young woman who'd be much better off for Latvia remaining at home.
 

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Well that's just the draw of moving from a poor country to a rich country which is hard to control. Forcing your population to remain breeds dissatisfaction. Poland's youth shouldn't be stolen by western European states, and it's not even 'brain drain' per se - a Latvian waitress working in Dublin is a young woman who'd be much better off for Latvia remaining at home.

Yes, one of the absurdities put forward by the Mass Immigrationists is that we should feel honoured by the high qualifications of the migrants.
That's tripe. A nuclear physicist or a Slavic philologist who is in Ireland working in McDonalds is just that--a burger flipper.
 

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Yes, one of the absurdities put forward by the Mass Immigrationists is that we should feel honoured by the high qualifications of the migrants.
That's tripe. A nuclear physicist or a Slavic philologist who is in Ireland working in McDonalds is just that--a burger flipper.
They're not rocket scientists driving taxis or doctors sweeping floors. They're largely unskilled workers. Or else they're skilled foreign workers imported to work for foreign NGOs based in low-tax Ireland.
 

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Polish lawmakers have approved a government plan to pay special minimum pensions to mothers of four or more children.

The measure passed in a 259-20 vote with 134 abstentions in the lower house of parliament in the early hours of Thursday, public broadcaster Polish Radio’s IAR news agency reported.

The legislation now goes to the Senate, the upper house of Poland’s parliament, for further debate.

Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki told a news conference last week that his government’s new “Mom 4-plus” programme aimed to benefit “mothers and grandmothers who have devoted their lives to bringing up children” and deserved “gratitude and respect” from society and state authorities.

Elżbieta Rafalska, the minister for family, labour and social policy, told reporters that the government’s new social assistance programme was designed to solve the problem of women who have given birth to and raised at least four children but have not acquired the right to a minimum state pension.

The new “maternal pensions,” to be offered beginning March 1, are expected to benefit nearly 90,000 citizens, according to Rafalska.

They will be paid out to women who have reached the retirement age of 60, the IAR news agency has reported.

The government plans to spend about PLN 11 billion (EUR 2.57 billion, USD 2.92 billion) on the new maternal benefits over the next 10 years, according to the news agency.

This year more than PLN 800 million has been set aside for this purpose, IAR reported

Polish MPs approve new benefits for mothers of four
The problem in Ireland is that the intergenerational welfare dependents tend to have large families at the expense of harder working Irish couples who supplement their welfare, they have no problem in throwing out kids left right and centre, and couldn't care less about them, or what they get up to, While Seamus and Socha have only one, who graduates from collage with honours.
If you want this to work there has to be parental investment or its useless, the pension should only be payable when the children graduate from third level or complete military service or finish a trade school, not just for having children.
 
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CHAVAL:

"you're working for peanuts in some Latin American Sh1thole."

That's what some guy said about you, is it true?
Where?
Not making much money, but making lots of mani, eh?
No idea where he got that idea from. I'm doing ok, by local standards anyway.
Besides, people don't go to foreign shitholes for economic reasons.
 
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