Orthodox Rabbis express shock over anti-Corbyn hysterics, the Jewish Chronicle denies that they did and than rows back.

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The article currently up on JC is a fair reflection of the truth - https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/...ism-fake-letter-rabbi-jonathan-sacks-1.469566

It is quite understandable that they would have thought the letter was fake. They subsequently corrected their mistake. Big deal. Well it's no doubt a big deal for some because Jews are involved, no other reason.

Also, the signatories are "ultra orthodox" not just "orthodox". i.e. Very serious god-botherers and all that typically goes with that (as the OP is a very good reminder of).

Contact between Charedim and the rest of the world is mainly non-existent, with children taught to fear the non-Charedi world.
 

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Also, the signatories are "ultra orthodox" not just "orthodox". i.e. Very serious god-botherers and all that typically goes with that (as the OP is a very good reminder of).

Contact between Charedim and the rest of the world is mainly non-existent, with children taught to fear the non-Charedi world.
Very anti-Semitic remarks.
 
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The article currently up on JC is a fair reflection of the truth - https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/...ism-fake-letter-rabbi-jonathan-sacks-1.469566

It is quite understandable that they would have thought the letter was fake. They subsequently corrected their mistake. Big deal. Well it's no doubt a big deal for some because Jews are involved, no other reason.

Also, the signatories are "ultra orthodox" not just "orthodox". i.e. Very serious god-botherers and all that typically goes with that (as the OP is a very good reminder of).

Contact between Charedim and the rest of the world is mainly non-existent, with children taught to fear the non-Charedi world.
When it comes to issues surrounding both Zionism and Corbyn The Jewish Chronicle isn't exactly a trust worthy source.
 
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Very anti-Semitic remarks.
Well I don't think anyone of sound mind would ever leave you to be the arbiter of how the world defines "anti-Semitic" now would they.

That would be letting the fox into the henhouse, as they say.

But to clarify for you alone, because no one else would need such clarification, religion, of all trademarks, has a lot to answer for.

Now, I don't go as far as Hitchins above. For I think those religious "lower down in the spectrum" (we might say) are usually largely harmless.

But as you go "up the spectrum", yes, I think it can damage reason and humanity to a point of real concern (which was why I mentioned the OP).
 

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I don't bother with all the finer points of this anti Semitic furore surrounding the liebour party. The hidden hand of vested interest doesn't want a full blown socialist as PM. The jewish issue is a weak spot and it is being exploited. They are deeply worried this wanker stands a serious chance of winning an election. Until that threat passes expect their muddy boots firmly on his throat. They have got a lot of mileage out of it so far, probably more than what they hoped for.
 
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Well I don't think anyone of sound mind would ever leave you to be the arbiter of how the world defines "anti-Semitic" now would they.

That would be letting the fox into the henhouse, as they say.

But to clarify for you alone, because no one else would need such clarification, religion, of all trademarks, has a lot to answer for.

Now, I don't go as far as Hitchins above. For I think those religious "lower down in the spectrum" (we might say) are usually largely harmless.

But as you go "up the spectrum", yes, I think it can damage reason and humanity to a point of real concern (which was why I mentioned the OP).
Maybe it is true that they wouldn't, but maybe it isn't true that they wouldn't again- however most certainly no one of sound mind would leave it up to the Campaign Against Anti-Semitism or the Anti-Defamation to define anti-Semitism. Talking about Christopher Hitchens here is Richard Dawkins with Rabbi Jonathan Sacks- there is very much that can be unpacked about this brief exchange. For one thing Rabbi Sacks shows an appalling arrogant ignorance of the UK as a whole in it. After Rabbi Sacks came out with the accusation of anti-Semitism Richard Dawkins lost his smug air of assurance that always apart from this time accompanied him when dealing with believers, he became in fact incredibly chastened.

 
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The article currently up on JC is a fair reflection of the truth - https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/...ism-fake-letter-rabbi-jonathan-sacks-1.469566

It is quite understandable that they would have thought the letter was fake. They subsequently corrected their mistake. Big deal. Well it's no doubt a big deal for some because Jews are involved, no other reason.

Also, the signatories are "ultra orthodox" not just "orthodox". i.e. Very serious god-botherers and all that typically goes with that (as the OP is a very good reminder of).

Contact between Charedim and the rest of the world is mainly non-existent, with children taught to fear the non-Charedi world.
Serious question who is your favourite Jewish Theologian and/or thinker outside of Ze'ev Jabotinsky?
 
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Serious question who is your favourite Jewish Theologian and/or thinker outside of Ze'ev Jabotinsky?
Spinoza. And I would never say Ze'ev Jabotinsky is a "favourite" thinker. Merely I acknowledge that a main element of his rationale has become undeniable post Oslo and post Camp David, and his prescriptions are thus becoming manifest reality. I bear no judgement apart from regret at the forces that inexorably made this rationale that he set out ninety five years ago so inevitable today.
 
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