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New Nationalist Party formed in Ireland - An Páirtí Náisiúnta \ The National Party

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Yet they're the only party who seemingly have an iota of respect for the institution by opposing homosexual marriage.
Barrett surely had no respect for the instituion. He forgot all about "..for worse". You cannot stand for something you don't hold up yourself. People are not stupid.
 
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You've missed my subsequent post then Wink Smile 2

I never said I wanted a party of my dreams and I said I'd still vote for the NP (which is a hell of a lot more than most people will do). What more d'you want?!!
I'd expect anyone with a shred of decency and patriotism to vote for them or an alternative (if one existed). Merely claiming you'd vote for them reluctantly yet signalling against them for seemingly non-existent reasons isn't exactly serving the cause though. Make of that what you will.
 
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Barrett surely had no respect for the instituion. He forgot all about "..for worse". You cannot stand for something you don't hold up yourself. People are not stupid.
There are always asterisks in these things. . .
We don't know the full story and likely never will, but from what I've observed he doesn't seem like the type to get a no fault divorce. As mentioned earlier, an annulment isn't granted without a fairly decent reasoning - different to a no fault divorce.
 

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Merely claiming you'd vote for them reluctantly yet signalling against them for seemingly non-existent reasons isn't exactly serving the cause though.
Didn't you read my other post about the very principles of the party?!

I'm concerned that you expect everyone to agree with everything Barrett and his buddies have come up with and not think for themselves. Not a solid basis for building a political movement Sir.
 
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Didn't you read my other post about the very principles of the party?!

I'm concerned that you expect everyone to agree with everything Barrett and his buddies have come up with and not think for themselves. Not a solid basis for building a political movement Sir.
I didn't see you take issue with anything othere than the death penalty principle, instead seemingly being unable to recall previous rationale for your opposition - which speaks volumes.

I'm not suggesting you follow the decisions of the NP absolutely. I already outlined my belief that breaking with the party over insignificant details is not conducive. I don't agree with everything the NP says or does, I would prefer a leader that isn't Justin Barrett, I'd like a lot of things different but there's nothing better and nothing better coming - so I have joined and will help how I can, because to cut and run is precisely what the regime wants.
 
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For the third time you missed my subsequent post! This is what I think about the very (9) principles of the party:

New Nationalist Party formed in Ireland - An Páirtí Náisiúnta \ The National Party
I don't see how these principles are particularly outrageous or ridiculous. You can tell quite easily what they're about from reading it: anti mass immigration, anti abortion, pro nationalism, law and order, sovereignty. None of these strike me as completely bonkers policies which won't wash. And during elections they're not going to be going round using such high-faulting language and talking about irredentist claims on the north.

I'm sure Barrett and Reynolds have been involved in politics long enough to understand that the hoi polloi won't be wooed by fancy language and abstract ideology. So I imagine their strategy for appealing to the masses will be different to their setting out their stall for prospective members (9 principles).
 
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I don't see how these principles are particularly outrageous or ridiculous. You can tell quite easily what they're about from reading it: anti mass immigration, anti abortion, pro nationalism, law and order, sovereignty. None of these strike me as completely bonkers policies which won't wash. And during elections they're not going to be going round using such high-faulting language and talking about irredentist claims on the north.

I'm sure Barrett and Reynolds have been involved in politics long enough to understand that the hoi polloi won't be wooed by fancy language and abstract ideology. So I imagine their strategy for appealing to the masses will be different to their setting out their stall for prospective members (9 principles).
The people most opposed to mass immigration according to polls are working class Sinn Fein voters many of whom would hold Socialist views. I wouldn't expect the Party to advocate Socialism, the Shinners themselves don't, but going full out against it and also in a manner which seems to suggest that they support above all medium size Irish capitalists just comes across like Fine Gael in the 1950s- add to that his attack on the Provisionals' armed campaign and it will turn a lot of people off. Sometimes it is best just to say nothing. He had no need to comment on the Troubles which are long gone at this stage.
 

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I don't see how these principles are particularly outrageous or ridiculous. You can tell quite easily what they're about from reading it: anti mass immigration, anti abortion, pro nationalism, law and order, sovereignty. None of these strike me as completely bonkers policies which won't wash. And during elections they're not going to be going round using such high-faulting language and talking about irredentist claims on the north. I'm sure Barrett and Reynolds have been involved in politics long enough to understand that the hoi polloi won't be wooed by fancy language and abstract ideology. So I imagine their strategy for appealing to the masses will be different to their setting out their stall for prospective members (9 principles).
I hope it will be but I still find it ridiculous to put the death penalty as one of your main principles. That ship has long since sailed. I can't get my head around why they'd stick it in there. The absolute 100% ban on every kind of abortion is also nutcase stuff that will turn loads of people off. A lot of the remainder is just as convoluted and irrelevant to anyone who doesn't wear tinfoil on their head. Its dogma. Its textbook sh1te. To be blunt I don't like Walter Mitty types.

Still I'd vote for this bunch of clowns in a heartbeat if they can get the topic of immigration out into the spotlight. If they did end up building something there can always be a purge of the nutters and more stable people installed.
 
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I hope it will be but I still find it ridiculous to put the death penalty as one of your main principles. That ship has long since sailed. I can't get my head around why they'd stick it in there. The absolute 100% ban on every kind of abortion is also nutcase stuff that will turn loads of people off. A lot of the remainder is just as convoluted and irrelevant to anyone who doesn't wear tinfoil on their head. Its dogma. Its textbook sh1te. To be blunt I don't like Walter Mitty types.

Still I'd vote for this bunch of clowns in a heartbeat if they can get the topic of immigration out into the spotlight. If they did end up building something there can always be a purge of the nutters and more stable people installed.
I join you on that one.
 
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This National Party video made my blood boil.
Wanting independence and sovereignty for Ireland is "backward" according to the most popular politician in Ireland
RIP Ireland. Was nice knowing you.

 
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And your constant attempts to belittle Potato, a clearly intelligent and well read poster, does nothing for me other than undermine your credibility.
Agreed. Potato Mystic is one of the best posters on this forum and deserves some respect.
 

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This National Party video made my blood boil.
Wanting independence and sovereignty for Ireland is "backward" according to the most popular politician in Ireland
RIP Ireland. Was nice knowing you.

Backwards idea of sovereignty, aka, what sovereignty actually means.

When rebranding doesn't work, just change the meaning of the words your stuck with.

RIP Ireland, is right.