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Plasticpaddy

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Well you sound like a defeated person,if you've given up that's up to you.I ask you to think again.😊😈
 

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The NP's position on the EU is such a non-issue. JB is a committed opponent of Euro federalism and if the EU don't play ball by returning our sovereignty, then we Irexit. It's actually a position that could hold a wide appeal for people whereas promising an abrupt Irexit will spook people. By the time the NP rises - presuming things work out for them - the EU will be in pieces anyway.
 

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The NP's position on the EU is such a non-issue. JB is a committed opponent of Euro federalism and if the EU don't play ball by returning our sovereignty, then we Irexit. It's actually a position that could hold a wide appeal for people whereas promising an abrupt Irexit will spook people. By the time the NP rises - presuming things work out for them - the EU will be in pieces anyway.
Godspeed that day.😊😈
 

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Leaving the EU is unpopular among the Irish electorate at this moment in time, the NP needs to pick their fights. The last time the electorate was truly irate at Europe was the time of the Lisbon treaty and austerity since then support has grown. They will never get into power unless they soften their tone on Europe at least for the time being. The Poles and the Hungarians did the same, they realised that if they did not moderate their stances on Europe then they would not be elected by the pro EU electorate of their respective countries, since they have gotten into power they have been able to make significant changes, protect their borders and retain a large degree of their independence and as they have done so Euroscepticism has grown organically. The same model should be used in Ireland.
 
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the NP ..will never get into power unless they soften their tone on Europe at least for the time being. The Poles and the Hungarians did the same, they realised that if they did not moderate thei
They have zero elected or near being elected right now. A problem in Ireland is 1916; too many think power is a stunt grab away
 

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How on earth would they soften their tone on Europe?

The NP refusing to claw powers back from Europe would be a very foolish election strategy for this party.
By following the same strategy as Orban and the Poles. Blocking Eurofederalism, rejecting immigration quotas but not coming out and explicitly calling for Ireland to leave the EU.
 

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By following the same strategy as Orban and the Poles. Blocking Eurofederalism, rejecting immigration quotas but not coming out and explicitly calling for Ireland to leave the EU.
The NP isn't calling for Ireland to leave the EU unless we can't get our sovereignty back. That's why they get flak from other patriots who want to put Irexit smack bang on the manifesto from the off. This is one NP policy that will actually carry weight.
 

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The NP isn't calling for Ireland to leave the EU unless we can't get our sovereignty back. That's why they get flak from other patriots who want to put Irexit smack bang on the manifesto from the off. This is one NP policy that will actually carry weight.
I didn't know that but I agree with you 100%. There isn't a majority yet for Ireland to leave the EU but the overwhelming majority are against an EU army and greater federalisation. Build on the latter and the former will happen soon enough.
 
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The NP's position on the EU is such a non-issue. JB is a committed opponent of Euro federalism and if the EU don't play ball by returning our sovereignty, then we Irexit. It's actually a position that could hold a wide appeal for people whereas promising an abrupt Irexit will spook people. By the time the NP rises - presuming things work out for them - the EU will be in pieces anyway.
Italy and Hungary are managing to build nationalism better than the Brits are. Brexit is inherently an English nationalist aspiration, but it's been hijacked by neocon Atlantacist types. The NP's interposition and nullification anti-EU stance is wiser and more well measured.
 
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