Marx and Engels opposed Mass Immigration and the Gaystapo

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Adorno found Jazz degenerate and even horrific, wanting it banned, he never lived to see the whole lets get drugged and gyrate to basically the sounds of a car alarm scene which I am sure Boyd Barret approves of.

Well, if Adorno stuck to critique of classical music and opera, we'd think he was a great fellow. He certainly did know his music. I wouldn't think he was the worst in general. Like a lot of the Frankfurt School, he seems to have been totally overpowered by the Holocaust and couldn't see beyond it. He simply couldn't accept that we humans can do things like that - and then do something wonderfully good in the next moment. However, he was correct in thinking that there was something inherently rotten in the West German state - but he was wrong in thinking that it was National Socialism. This rottenness has since become the European Union.
 

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Well, if Adorno stuck to critique of classical music and opera, we'd think he was a great fellow. He certainly did know his music. I wouldn't think he was the worst in general. Like a lot of the Frankfurt School, he seems to have been totally overpowered by the Holocaust and couldn't see beyond it. He simply couldn't accept that we humans can do things like that - and then do something wonderfully good in the next moment. However, he was correct in thinking that there was something inherently rotten in the West German state - but he was wrong in thinking that it was National Socialism. This rottenness has since become the European Union.
Adorno was wrong about a huge amount of things however I do not think that he was the fountain head of evil that a lot of people believe. I don't think he was a person I would have respected. Look do you think Emily Davison and petaljam over on p.ie have actually sat down at read Adorno and Benjamin? Of course they have not. I have. Macushla would find my perfect Ireland not exactly perfect at all but he could happily live with- yeah right he could live with Emily Davison's prefect Ireland- and in extremely many ways more power to him.

Enoch Powell was either very, very wrong or very, very right but he was very, very right about the EEC:

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I'm getting a bit tired if constantly reminding people that loving mass immigration and gay marriage does not make you a Marxist - so I decided to put the evidence for this in one thread.

So here is Marx on the question of mass immigration:

Ireland constantly sends her own surplus to the English labor market, and thus forces down wages and lowers the material and moral position of the English working class.

And most important of all! Every industrial and commercial centre in England now possesses a working class divided into two hostile camps, English proletarians and Irish proletarians. The ordinary English worker hates the Irish worker as a competitor who lowers his standard of life. In relation to the Irish worker he regards himself as a member of the ruling nation and consequently he becomes a tool of the English aristocrats and capitalists against Ireland, thus strengthening their domination over himself. He cherishes religious, social, and national prejudices against the Irish worker. His attitude towards him is much the same as that of the “poor whites” to the black people in the former slave states of the U.S.A. The Irishman pays him back with interest in his own money. He sees in the English worker both the accomplice and the stupid tool of the English rulers in Ireland.

This antagonism is artificially kept alive and intensified by the press, the pulpit, the comic papers, in short, by all the means at the disposal of the ruling classes. This antagonism is the secret of the impotence of the English working class, despite its organization. It is the secret by which the capitalist class maintains its power. And the latter is quite aware of this.

Letters: Marx to Sigfrid Meyer and August Vogt 9 April 1870


And here is Engels on the Gaystapo:

These "unveilings" are extremely against nature. The pederasts begin counting themselves and find that they are forming a power within the state. Only an organisation was missing, but according to this, it seems to already exist in secret. And as they count among their numbers many important men within all the old parties and even in the new ones, from Rösing to Schweitzer, their victory is inevitable. 'Guerre aux cons, paix aux trous de cul' it will go now. It is only luck that we personally are too old to have to fear this party gaining victory - to have to pay bodily tribute to the victors. But the young generation! By the way, only in Germany would that a guy like that appear and translate his dirt into a theory. Unfortunately, he was not yet so courageous as to openly confess to being 'One of them,' and still has to operate coram publico 'from the front.' But, wait until the new North-German penal law has acknowledged the droits de cul - then it will turn out quite differently. As for poor 'from the front' people like us, with our childish preference for women, things will go badly enough.

Letter from Engels to Marx, June 22, 1869
"Droits de cul"... Any chance of a literal translation?
 

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If you look at the DDR and you look at Germany today - which one is more Nationalist? Which one of them is committing national and ethnic suicide under a flood of mass immigration? In reality, to be a Nationalist, you have to be a Communist. You have to see the national folk as one entity, and put the welfare of this national folk above the private ambitions and consumer choices of individuals.

 
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