Macron's plans for a French Islam.

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Islam in France is something very diverse and chaotic with extremely little formal structures due to the fact that the Laicite laws brought in by Freemasons to harass and bully Catholics have been used very much against Muslims as well, only more so in fact for a variety of reasons. The thing is though therefore that even if he had the best will of the Muslim community doing what he wants to do in such short amount of time would be impossible but given that so many moderate ordinary Muslims don't trust the French State and that is before you get down to the amount of seriously hard line Takferi/Jihadist sympathizers or supporters that now have come to exist in France. This will though be a massive blow to petaljam who sees the French Laicite laws as something to deeply admire and be proud of.


 

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Islam in France is something very diverse and chaotic with extremely little formal structures due to the fact that the Laicite laws brought in by Freemasons to harass and bully Catholics have been used very much against Muslims as well, only more so in fact for a variety of reasons. The thing is though therefore that even if he had the best will of the Muslim community doing what he wants to do in such short amount of time would be impossible but given that so many moderate ordinary Muslims don't trust the French State and that is before you get down to the amount of seriously hard line Takferi/Jihadist sympathizers or supporters that now have come to exist in France. This will though be a massive blow to petaljam who sees the French Laicite laws as something to deeply admire and be proud of.


they will put a fatwa on him for being evil. Fatwa - Wikipedia
 
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they will put a fatwa on him for being evil. Fatwa - Wikipedia
They already believe that he is actively involved in homosexuality and I have heard already from someone in France who is very close to some Muslims that there are rumour among the Muslim community that this is some scheme on his part to enforce homosexualist ideology unto them. To be fair to them that isn't outside of the realms of possibility.
 

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They already believe that he is actively involved in homosexuality and I have heard already from someone in France who is very close to some Muslims that there are rumour among the Muslim community that this is some scheme on his part to enforce homosexualist ideology unto them. To be fair to them that isn't outside of the realms of possibility.
well this will be entertaining!
 

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They already believe that he is actively involved in homosexuality and I have heard already from someone in France who is very close to some Muslims that there are rumour among the Muslim community that this is some scheme on his part to enforce homosexualist ideology unto them. To be fair to them that isn't outside of the realms of possibility.
this French brand of Islam will entrench and isolate the Muslims ever more. he is the first liberal leader to address the Muslim community in such a radical way. macron may just be shoring up what's left of his conservative vote but it's still a peculiar move from a liberal head of state.
 
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The situation in france is desperate, but obviously it's going as planned. As you state, the hodgepodge of moslems from across the islamic world doesn't bode well. A disparate bunch of foreigners eeking out a miserable existence in the banlieue are easy pickings for the Salafists.
 
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this French brand of Islam will entrench and isolate the Muslims ever more. he is the first liberal leader to address the Muslim community in such a radical way. macron may just be shoring up what's left of his conservative vote but it's still a peculiar move from a liberal head of state.
The Muslim in question is different in each Western European- the question in the ROI is completely surreal and one that someone with even rudimentary knowledge of the Islamic world wouldn't have created even if they were pro-mass immigration. The only real solution to the Muslim question in France which is both just and rational is that offered by Alain De Benoist (he is considered a Fascist in the Anglosphere) but that would mean admitting that the State's Republican ideology was stupid in the first which La Pensee Unique will never do. However through inviting in a lot of Muslims and not allowing them in general to build Mosques, wear even a hijab on a lot of occasions and the list goes on has led to this situation. Giving some form to Islam in France is a necessity however I don't think the French State is capable of this. Something to bear in mind is that figures on the numbers in France are wildly how shall we put it? Well they are significantly higher than "official estimates" (the State prevents official estimates because of it's Republican ideology and a lot of estimates are based on those who attend official Mosques when so many Muslims don't- and indeed have never done). The French State needs to get off the necks of it's Muslim community, stop using them as a reserve pool of Labour to drive wages down effectively giving most of the choice between fanatical Religiosity and crime and start giving them some autonomy in their own areas and help those areas into becoming self-sufficient- at the same time political rights as regards for people choosing to be under autonomous Muslim zones should be restricted in matters that don't directly effect them as regards the State as a whole.
 
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The situation in france is desperate, but obviously it's going as planned. As you state, the hodgepodge of moslems from across the islamic world doesn't bode well. A disparate bunch of foreigners eeking out a miserable existence in the banlieue are easy pickings for the Salafists.
France is heading for at least a three winged civil in the next five to ten years that will make the "Troubles" look like a teddy bears' picnic. "May 1968" is wildly romanticized in French bourgeois Liberal and Leftist imagination but it was nothing compared to the 2005 which came within a knife's edge of becoming a full on insurgency. The jury is out for me on the question as to whether the scum who currently rule Western Europe are diabolically intelligent or people who's solipsistic arrogance has led them into acting like people who are clinically retarded- it would actually be more comfortable for me to believe that they were diabolically intelligent.
 
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