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Lucy quits the Renua Leadership

Earnán Ó Maille

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I don't know about that. There probably is a space for a conservative party that rejects the cronyism and criminality of Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil, but Renua wasn't it. They never had the resources of quality people and money to really be a contender.
If a suspicious mind like yours won't question the possibility of Fine Gael False Flags and Fronts I give up. They probably have more Fronts than the Workers Party. A lack of quality never stopped them.

How Independent do you think Naughten really is now?
 

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If a suspicious mind like yours won't question the possibility of Fine Gael False Flags and Fronts I give up. They probably have more Fronts than the Workers Party. A lack of quality never stopped them.

How Independent do you think Naughten really is now?

I just don't see that a chara. Sinn Féin and the Trots do all that sort of front group shite, but its really not in the culture of FF and FG. They've never felt they had to and they aren't really that organised as groups. They are only held together by a loose rogue's bond.
 

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I just don't see that a chara. Sinn Féin and the Trots do all that sort of front group shite, but its really not in the culture of FF and FG. They've never felt they had to and they aren't really that organised as groups. They are only held together by a loose rogue's bond.
I understand why, but you've dodged the question I asked: 'How Independent do you think Naughten really is now?'

Would a FF and FG coalition, despite their culture, be flexible if an Independent FF or FG member on board was the difference between another 5 years in Government?

I think Independents should be made to clarify the nature of their Independence. Are you Independent FF, Independent FG or Independent Labour? Alternatively, Independent Community Activist, Independent Socialist or Independent Republican? The Independent Nationalists can hitch a lift elsewhere, on the back of the Identity Ireland truck..
 

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As TG said- FF & FG don't do that shite.

It's for freaks like WP, SF, SWP.

Do yer Homework on Naughten & stop rambling...
 

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As TG said- FF & FG don't do that shite.

It's for freaks like WP, SF, SWP.

Do yer Homework on Naughten & stop rambling...
"We celebrate the right of human beings to enjoy life – whether we speak of a criminal on death row, or an innocent baby girl, or a baby with Down syndrome. None of us are perfect, but our life is worthy and we are all worthy of life. Who are any one of us to determine that even one single life is not worth living, not worth protecting?" - Lucy Creighton

I'm pro-choice, but personally speaking, my views on abortion would be a lot closer to Creighton's views than any of the aforementioned.

I don't know about anyone else, but Independents have to tick two of three boxes for me: Class, Community & Country.
 
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