Lenin on the Fake Lefties that pose as Marxists in Europe today

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I don't like to cite Wikipedia but...

"Droughts and famines in Russia and the Soviet Union tended to occur fairly regularly, with famine occurring every 10–13 years and droughts every five to seven years. "​

To clarify, the article says that pre Soviet era, famines did happen but they were far more frequent under Soviet rule.

Academics have tried to quantify the number of dead from starvation due to central planning.

The Black Book of Communism perhaps being the most accepted.

Perhaps the Soviets weren't doing it right and these mistakes wouldn't happen under another socialist regime but Solzhenitsyn is quoted as saying...

"You must understand, the leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. It cannot be overstated. Bolshevism committed the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant and uncaring about this enormous crime is proof that the global media is in the hands of the perpetrators."
 
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I don't like to cite Wikipedia but...

"Droughts and famines in Russia and the Soviet Union tended to occur fairly regularly, with famine occurring every 10–13 years and droughts every five to seven years. "​

To clarify, the article says that pre Soviet era, famines did happen but they were far more frequent under Soviet rule.

Academics have tried to quantify the number of dead from starvation due to central planning.

The Black Book of Communism perhaps being the most accepted.

Perhaps the Soviets weren't doing it right and these mistakes wouldn't happen under another socialist regime but Solzhenitsyn is quoted as saying...

"You must understand, the leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. It cannot be overstated. Bolshevism committed the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant and uncaring about this enormous crime is proof that the global media is in the hands of the perpetrators."

The "Black Book of Communism" is a load of tripe put together by inbred cretins. Solzhenitsyn was a fine writer of fiction, but he had very little concept of reality. Even his friends in the West turned their backs on him because of his tinfoil hat ideas - and refused to even publish a book that he had spent decades of work on.

The truth is that Jews did join the Communist Party out of hatred of the Christian Tsars, and they did abuse their positions in the Communist Party to take revenge on the Christians for perceived Tsarist injustices against their tribe. But to suggest that the Jews were anything more than a tiny minority of the membership of the CP is just daft.

And let's not forget that Comrade Stalin was taking steps to deal with these Jewish abusers when he died - or was murdered.
 

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Famine was common in Soviet Russia. A large majority of the ruling Bolsheviks were not ethnically Russian and perhaps divorced from the suffering their policies meant to the people.

The centrally planned economy resulted in gross under production and a mismatch between people's needs and what was produced and distributed.

Famine and Starvation were common in Soviet Russia.

Disregarding sources you don't like or that don't fit your ideological bias is at best lazy.

I'm surprised the Wikipedia page is unacceptable or too 'tinfoil hat' for you.
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I didn't include the link. Your reply makes more sense now.

Droughts and famines in Russia and the Soviet Union - Wikipedia
 
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Marx said that the declining rate of profit due to overproduction would create a crisis in Capitalism - and it has - several times. But he also recognised that Capitalism could extend its markets into the colonies and so put off the day of doom. What we are seeing now is Europe herself being turned into a Third World colony - and the only ones putting up any kind of working class resistance is the Far Right. Would that not be ironic if the ones to gain from the Marxist analysis were the Far Right?

As for racial blending, I see no merit in it. The mulatto offspring of race mixing rarely have any class consciousness. Rather they seek the approval of their Masters as tamed House Slaves. Only homogeneous native communities have the will to resist Capitalism.
Your wholly reactionary views have nothing in common with Marxism, you clearly know nothing about Lenin and your "globalist gaystapo" conspiracy theory is completely lumpenproletarian.
 

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The USSR never lived in isolation. It was always very internationalist. And the starvation came to Russia when Capitalism was imposed on it in the 1990s. There was a de facto famine that cost at least a million lives under the Yeltsin régime.

It's been estimated there were 5 to 6 milion unexplained deaths during the capitalist Yeltsin era in Russia. And that does not count deaths in other countries of the fformer USSR.
 

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It's been estimated there were 5 to 6 milion unexplained deaths during the capitalist Yeltsin era in Russia. And that does not count deaths in other countries of the fformer USSR.
Who has estimated this? A link would be helpful if it could explain how this figure was produced.

By the way Google tells me that 2 million people die of natural causes in the US every year, apparently Cancer and Heart Failure together account for 1 million US deaths a year.
A back of the Homosexual packet calculation tells me that with something like half the population of the US that something like 8 million people would have been expected to die of natural causes in Russia in the 8 years Yeltsin was in power.
 
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Famine and Starvation were common in Soviet Russia.
Much less common than before 1917. And once the USSR had recovered from WW2, famine and starvation was ended in the Soviet Union. It only returned under Capitalism in the 1990s.
 
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Your wholly reactionary views have nothing in common with Marxism, you clearly know nothing about Lenin and your "globalist gaystapo" conspiracy theory is completely lumpenproletarian.

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I have a question, Gaelach.

You admit only a semi-Socialist phase of Leninism has been achieved in either Russia or China, correct? If this is the case, should we not handle the semi-Socialist phase in the same way any other system based on capital is organised? The semi-Socialist phase is, after all, still based on capital, albeit in the hands of the state, somewhat like what usually occurs within Fascist Corporatism. My suggestion is to apply a land tax, like that written of in the writings of George; a perishable, accelerated, currency, which redistributes through having a natural time cap, before it cannot be used (Gesell; this would deal with inflation and money need only be printed when debt is accrued, which it would not be, after some incremental time). Aside from that, there are some ideas by Douglas of Social Credit, that may be of interest. And then there is Keynes, obviously, who supported Gesell's idea, but never thought it could be implemented (only, it would take a planned economy for this, as Pound learnt from Griffith). Pound described what the value of wealth should be and by whom it should be defined; the state; acting in relation to the rate at which fiat is legislated, by an individual's personal will. I would go further than that; wealth should be defined by the state, in the context of a budget, but relating that budget to an over-deflation of the economy, basing the value of money and not only the rate at which fiat is legislated by an individual's will, but also taking in to account the rate at which produce, service, and other variables decay, not to mention that even that which does not decay should decrease in value over time, or just become non-valuable after a certain amount of time, drawn up based on a budget. The state should then over-devaluate these commodities, until it accrues wealth (which will be based on something substantial), which it will turn in to some proven commodity, which never devaluates, globally, such as gold. Is the reason this kind of plan is not implemented because it could never be popular enough, or do Leninists simply hate the idea of playing with capital? I mentioned this to some Leninists, including Cockshott, and they and he sort of brushed it off.
 
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I have a question, Gaelach.

You admit only a semi-Socialist phase of Leninism has been achieved in either Russia or China, correct? If this is the case, should we not handle the semi-Socialist phase in the same way any other system based on capital is organised? The semi-Socialist phase is, after all, still based on capital, albeit in the hands of the state, somewhat like what usually occurs within Fascist Corporatism. My suggestion is to apply a land tax, like that written of in the writings of George; a perishable, accelerated, currency, which redistributes through having a natural time cap, before it cannot be used (Gesell; this would deal with inflation and money need only be printed when debt is accrued, which it would not be, after some incremental time). Aside from that, there are some ideas by Douglas of Social Credit, that may be of interest. And then there is Keynes, obviously, who supported Gesell's idea, but never thought it could be implemented (only, it would take a planned economy for this, as Pound learnt from Griffith). Pound described what the value of wealth should be and by whom it should be defined; the state; acting in relation to the rate at which fiat is legislated, by an individual's personal will. I would go further than that; wealth should be defined by the state, in the context of a budget, but relating that budget to an over-deflation of the economy, basing the value of money and not only the rate at which fiat is legislated by an individual's will, but also taking in to account the rate at which produce, service, and other variables decay, not to mention that even that which does not decay should decrease in value over time, or just become non-valuable after a certain amount of time, drawn up based on a budget. The state should then over-devaluate these commodities, until it accrues wealth (which will be based on something substantial), which it will turn in to some proven commodity, which never devaluates, globally, such as gold. Is the reason this kind of plan is not implemented because it could never be popular enough, or do Leninists simply hate the idea of playing with capital? I mentioned this to some Leninists, including Cockshott, and they and he sort of brushed it off.

Leninists have nothing against capital. Leninists love capital. They want to use it in a rational manner. Captialism used capital in an entirely chaotic and irrational manner. Georgism certainly does have merits, but I'm afraid in any bourgeois society the landowners and landlords will always have enough power to prevent Georgist reforms from happening.
 
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