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I feel so bad for people who have spent their whole 20s/30s as leftists, brainwashed by the institutions. Especially for women who didn't settle down in their 20s/30s and instead spent those precious decades as fat, ugly, smelly, sweaty feminists with bad hair dye and six chins. A lot of these people are going to have a rude awakening and will come to realise that they have been lied to, that "diversity" is no strength, that their "non-binary" gender identity was just a political position imposed on them by sinister academics and nothing more, that there is nothing to proud of about being fat, that they wasted $60,000 on college tuition just to end up working at Starbucks or Claire's, that being 45 and childless and working 40 hours per week and consuming 2 bottles of wine every night wasn't the best idea in life. Too bad!
 
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I feel so bad for people who have spent their whole 20s/30s as leftists, brainwashed by the institutions. Especially for women who didn't settle down in their 20s/30s and instead spent those precious decades as fat, ugly, smelly, sweaty feminists with bad hair dye and six chins. A lot of these people are going to have a rude awakening and will come to realise that they have been lied to, that "diversity" is no strength, that their "non-binary" gender identity was just a political position imposed on them by sinister academics and nothing more, that there is nothing to proud of about being fat, that they wasted $60,000 on college tuition just to end up working at Starbucks or Claire's, that being 45 and childless and working 40 hours per week and consuming 2 bottles of wine every night wasn't the best idea in life. Too bad!
marca, there will be mega-depression in the coming decades - MEGA. they are actually very wounded and when they realise what theyve been a part of they will feel guilty as fuck too. people are good underneath it all. as u said - they are brainwashed.
 

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Socialist Party documents illustrate criticism from international comrades
Papers show serious differences between leading party figures on domestic strategy


The inner workings of the Socialist Party are not usually on display for all to see.

Its TDs – Paul Murphy, Ruth Coppinger and Mick Barry – are the most cogent left wing voices in the Dáil.

Also operating under the Solidarity (formerly Anti-Austerity Alliance) banner, they have led debates on issues such as abortion and water charges.

In our view a tendency has also developed of some leading Irish comrades seeing all struggles through the prism of the women’s movement, rather than seeing how it interconnects with other struggles
Documents recently circulated within the party, however, illustrate how their movement has been criticised by international comrades for an excessive focus on abortion and women’s rights issues.

 
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Lefties getting criticised by other lefties ? will they picket the meeting, shout down the opposition and call the cops if the argument gets too factual ?
 
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I must admit to finding this stuff quite confusing. I had always considered myself Left-wing, but the recent position of parties and groups on Left has me quite at a loss to continue defining myself as such. It is not so much their economic analysis rather their lack of any national or traditional basis. For example with Corbyn's Labour, I am very attracted to his reversal of privatization of transport and NHS etc, however his support for the EU and his failure to take mass migration seriously, leave me very cold toward him. He seems to think that British people are anybody who can pitch up on the island of GB, and if Luton becomes colder version of Lahore, that's fine, for a Labour government will run the buses and provide a new community center. Yet they claim (in this case Corbyn Labout/Momentum) they are Left. Are they right, and I am wrong.

I can see that NGO/ shadow state groups, like Amnesty International and Oxfam, MSF etc are working for a "general good", maybe could be said to be following Gramsci or Alinksy approach, that if the heights of government cannot be captured, then a long march through the institutions can capture the culture of a state and the population brought to support them. Many will claim this is globalism, but is it a Marxist style spread of a world revolution? Something that Trotsky would have supported if he was still around? I, again, find myself in strong sympathy for the nation state. Even sympathetic for the English to find their country's institutions swamped by people who have no regard for them or way of life (many will say they deserve no better)

When I look at US politics, the Alt-Right seem to have good analysis of cultural problem that the SJW and the LGBT lobby are creating there. I watch Stefan Molyeaux on Youtube alot and know that he is a Libertarian, and find his take on economics tough to stomach, but he presents in a very rational and can be very convincing. The extremes of this analysis leads to a conclusion that the Left view white people as the problem and the sooner they are removed the happier the world be. And I can see that in terms of previous wars and imperialism they have a point. Can the SJW & LGBT agenda be considered left, as it seems that it too is Gramsci/Alinsky in it's intent to destroy the patriarchal/capitalist/ imperialist societies.

Even when it comes to the war in Syria, I read this recently on the page of Gearoid O'Colmain who came to speak to anti- war rally. I respect his work very much.




Gearóid Ó Colmáin

October 8 at 8:46pm ·

I was invited by ShannonWatch, an Irish 'peace' organisation, to give a talk at a seminar about NATO's wars. I was delighted to participate in such an event and was going to talk about Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Rwanda, Libya, Syria and many more countries, explaining NATO's geopolitical strategies and ambitions. When I arrived at the event, I was told by the organiser that I could not speak as he had heard I was "anti-semitic" and "homophobic". He had never read anything I wrote! He said organisations ShannonWatch are affiliated with intervened and asked that I be prevented from speaking. Amnesty International and the Irish Anti-War movement are among the affiliates. In 2011, the Irish anti-war movement supported the NATO-backed terrorists in Libya. They continue to back the terrorists in Syria. As for Amnesty International, they are the public relations whores of fascism. Hardly surprising, therefore, that they would want to prevent me from informing some of the genuine and good people who were there today. Forget about the buffoons of the far right, the real fascists today are the self-righteous, cowardly, ignorant, smug, reactionary, petty-bourgeois leftists! They make me sick!



So Is there even a Left anymore? Is this stuff in anyway related to Marx? Or do the old labels even apply anymore? Is the 21st century shaping up into what Dugin would say Liberalism vs Traditional, or Globalism vs Nationalism. Is there a place for "real" marxism?

I have probably made lots of of mistakes in this, regarding how i interpret these thinkers and ideologies to be about. Perhaps posters could offer clarity?
The left today are student union middle class types..
Permanently outraged on subjects many don't give a moment of thought to, because it doesn't mean that much.
Your take on the subject is excellent and pretty much what I see it as also.
They're not bothered about fairness only control and dismantling what exists.
Very nilistic.
 
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The left today are student union middle class types..
Permanently outraged on subjects many don't give a moment of thought to, because it doesn't mean that much.
Your take on the subject is excellent and pretty much what I see it as also.
They're not bothered about fairness only control and dismantling what exists.
Very nilistic.
correct. Lefties are completely unreasonable, lack conscience nor insight. Have an entitlement culture and think that money grows on trees.
 

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Funny listening to Yeats talking about getting the solidarity types on the show.
Now that their full on Marxist Leninist leanings are out in the open.
And again they are all of comfortable middle class stock.
These folk are Marxist ideologues and should be proud to get out there and proclaim such and defend it.
Or should they stay in the closet?
 
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Funny listening to Yeats talking about getting the solidarity types on the show.
Now that their full on Marxist Leninist leanings are out in the open.
And again they are all of comfortable middle class stock.
These folk are Marxist ideologues and should be proud to get out there and proclaim such and defend it.
Or should they stay in the closet?
either Marxists and Nazi's all frank and open, out there.

or both secret and in the closet.

equally scary ideologies.


whatever.
 
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