Latvian left wing party under fire for "Future of the EU" Facebook election poster

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Marx if swallowed raw, or at least some of his writings- yes this is true. However in practice if not in theory Socialism ends up being Nationalistic. Stalin it is clear saw the error of turning Marx and Lenin's writings into the secular version of Church Dogmas and was trying to remedy this before he got most probably murdered. I don't think that Tadgh is asking anyone to embrace those dogmas. That said while I think a vigorous Patriotism is a vital necessity for a healthy society I would strongly reject the total denial of any universalism that you see in Zionism, Hitlerism, "Christian Identity", etc.

Very true a chara. Would anyone claim that Mao wasn't a Nationalist? Or Kim Il Sung? Or Ho Chi Minh? Or Castro, Ceausescu, Hoxha, etc. Of course they were Nationalists and Patriots.
 
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What does it even mean to get rid of Marxism? Marx did a scientific analysis of the Capitalist system. Without Marx, you cannot understand Capitalism or Liberalism, and therefore you cannot hope to defeat them. And needless to say, Capitalism will not allow Nationalism to exist. Either Nationalism defeats Capitalism, or vice versa.
Yes, Marx had some valid criticisms of capitalism. But the ideology and system of Marxism would discard all national differences. It opposes religion. It's a materialist ideology in totality. You cannot build a spiritual nationalism of the people from the Marxist ideology.
 
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this party is neither Left nor ever going to apply the thought of Lenin nor Hitler to their agenda

this is little more than play pretend kulak banter

Mosleyite Fascism also discarded National distinction
 
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Yes, Marx had some valid criticisms of capitalism. But the ideology and system of Marxism would discard all national differences. It opposes religion. It's a materialist ideology in totality. You cannot build a spiritual nationalism of the people from the Marxist ideology.

No Marxist state sought to discard national differences. Just the opposite. Internationalism is not about discarding national differences, but about different nations working together for a better life. As for Materialism, you will find that the Socialist states were a lot more spiritual in their essence than any of the Western states. Besides of all that, you certainly don't have to accept everything Marx thought about every topic to employ his analysis of Capitalism.
 

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Btw., I wouldn't agree with that poster. The Africans coming here are not noble African warriors, but are usually urban scum criminals. That African warrior is presented as standing by his white woman and mulatto baby - which is the last thing most of these African lads do today. Also, the women will usually not be slim and fit like that, but clinically obese.
 

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Every Nationalist should learn this off by heart,

“The bourgeoisie, wherever it has got the upper hand, has put an end to all feudal, patriarchal, idyllic relations. It has pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to his 'natural superiors,' and has left remaining no other nexus between man and man than naked self-interest, callous 'cash payment.' It has drowned the most heavenly ecstasies of religious fervor, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine sentimentalism, in the icy water of egotistical calculation. It has resolved personal worth into exchange value, and in place of the numberless indefeasible chartered freedoms, has set up that single, unconscionable freedom—Free Trade. In one word, for exploitation, veiled by religious and political illusions, it has substituted naked, shameless, direct, brutal exploitation.

The bourgeoisie has stripped of its halo every occupation hitherto honored and looked up to with reverent awe. It has converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the poet, the man of science, into its paid wage laborers.

The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family its sentimental veil, and has reduced the family relation to a mere money relation.”

The Communist Manifesto - Marx and Engels
 

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For anyone wondering why the Capitalist Oligarchs are now so in love with homosexuality, transgenderism, abortion - even mass immigration is worth something more to the Capitalist than just cheap labour and high rents,


“The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionizing the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered forms, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionizing of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation, distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones.

All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away; all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned....

The Communist Manifesto - Marx and Engels
 

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Yes, Marx had some valid criticisms of capitalism. But the ideology and system of Marxism would discard all national differences. It opposes religion. It's a materialist ideology in totality. You cannot build a spiritual nationalism of the people from the Marxist ideology.
There is Marxism as a secular and there is Marx as thinker. In practice though successful movements that called themselves Marxist were pretty Nationalistic. Personally I believe it was the whole treating "Marxism-Leninism" as Church Dogma thing that led to the fall of the Soviet Union.
 

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There is Marxism as a secular and there is Marx as thinker. In practice though successful movements that called themselves Marxist were pretty Nationalistic. Personally I believe it was the whole treating "Marxism-Leninism" as Church Dogma thing that led to the fall of the Soviet Union.

The irony being the the Soviet Union was anything but secular.
 
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No Marxist state sought to discard national differences. Just the opposite. Internationalism is not about discarding national differences, but about different nations working together for a better life. As for Materialism, you will find that the Socialist states were a lot more spiritual in their essence than any of the Western states. Besides of all that, you certainly don't have to accept everything Marx thought about every topic to employ his analysis of Capitalism.
I think too often you put too much credence into propaganda. Communism supports revolution in all nations, it isn't a specific national ideology at all. Communist Russia was basically in the early years ruled by a criminal international cartel of Jews, without a nation of their own and also possessing a particularly Talmudic hatred, no wonder they took to international communism like a duck to water. It's an ideology wrapped up in jargon and pseudo-intellectualism but has been used in the West as a pernicious and poisonous anti-national force.
 
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The party was a member of the Labour and Socialist International between 1923 and 1940, and was admitted into the modern Socialist International in 1994.

The current president of the SI is the former Prime Minister of Greece George Papandreou.

Papandreou responded by promoting austerity measures, reducing spending [...] freezing additional taxes [...] reducing the country's public sector. The announced austerity program caused a wave of nationwide strikes [...]

cryptoRight poseurs are not Leftists
 

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I think too often you put too much credence into propaganda. Communism supports revolution in all nations, it isn't a specific national ideology at all. Communist Russia was basically in the early years ruled by a criminal international cartel of Jews, without a nation of their own and also possessing a particularly Talmudic hatred, no wonder they took to international communism like a duck to water. It's an ideology wrapped up in jargon and pseudo-intellectualism but has been used in the West as a pernicious and poisonous anti-national force.
Yet outside of the Labour Communism and Socialism was usually married to pretty hard line Republicanism when Republicanism meant Nationalism in Ireland. I don't think you can simply wrap up things as easily as you have done- history isn't that simple. The question also is why have FF and FG brought things to where they are now? Can you answer that?
 
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