Jews concerned about about multiculturalism being imported from America to Israel

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Seems it's not just Europeans which are concerned about the ethnic and cultural make-up of their homelands which is being expressed in nationalist parties like AfD in Germany or the National Party in Ireland. Jews are too. From an article in today's Forward magazine:

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More importantly, though, and what I so want my non-Orthodox brothers and sisters to understand, is why it is that Orthodox Jews oppose importing the American “multi-winged bird” model of Jewish life to Israel.

Here in the U.S., the Jewish community is tragically bifurcated. Once, not terribly long ago, all Jews were, well, just Jews. Today, though, because of the heterodox movements’ lack of fealty to halachic standards in conversion, marriage and divorce, Orthodox Jews cannot in good conscience assume that other self-identified Jews are in fact halachically Jewish and potential spouses. Whereas when I was a young man, an observant marriage prospect raised outside Orthodoxy would have presented no problem to me or my peers, today, it would to all Orthodox Jews. We are – painful as it is to say – on the path to becoming two different peoples.

That observation bespeaks no ill will or condescension, G-d forbid. It is simply the entirely predictable, if lamentable, result of multiple religious standards in important areas. From the perspective of Orthodox Jews, the non-Orthodox Jewish world is comprised today of Jews and non-Jews, products of permitted marriages and of forbidden ones.


That is tragic enough here in the Diaspora. But to foster the same Jewish societal bifurcation in Israel would be, to us Orthodox, terrible. We want to continue to know, and for all Israelis to know, that an Israeli Jew, no matter his or her degree of observance, is a Jew, and that a halacha-respecting Rabbinate (even with its bureaucratic problems) is overseeing and maintaining halachic standards in things like conversion, marriage and divorce.

Please try to understand. We Orthodox obstinately maintain the belief of our ancestors — that the Torah, including both its written text and its oral elucidation was given our forebears at Sinai, and that it is incumbent on Jews to be faithful to every detail of its laws and to the rabbinic tradition to which it directs us.

Israel doesn’t need, and will be gravely harmed by, American-style “multi-Judaisms.” It doesn’t need to introduce doubt into its Jews’ halachic identities, or increased traffic and commerce on Shabbat, or erosion of the respect for halacha that currently exists even among many Israeli Jews who may not personally be living observant lives.
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http://forward.com/opinion/383712/religious-pluralism-would-spell-disaster-for-israel/
 
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Advances in genetic testing helps Israel avoid becoming multicultural

The mass immigration of Jews from the FSU to Israel was widely seen as a welcome blessing for the country, but many of them have experienced difficulties proving their Jewish identity for marriage and other personal status requirements due to the suppression of religious activity by the former Soviet regime.

This has caused, and continues to cause, severe problems for these immigrants and their descendants, and threatens to become a wider social problem if ever-greater numbers of such people have their Jewish status rejected by the rabbinical courts and the Chief Rabbinate, as has been happening of late.

A new volume of responsa on matters of Jewish law, written at the Eretz Hemdah Institute under the direction and guidance of Carmel and Rabbi Moshe Ehrenreich, who also co-heads the institute, deals with a case in Munich, Germany, several years ago in which a woman sought to join a Jewish community and claimed to be Jewish.

She was asked for proof of her Jewish status, but much of her family had perished in the Holocaust and her living relatives would not help her since her maternal grandmother had survived and vowed not to have any further connection to the Jewish people. With no other way of proving her Jewish lineage, the woman took a mitochondrial DNA test and submitted it as evidence that she was indeed Jewish.

Mitochondrial DNA, the genetic material present in cellular bodies called mitochondria, is inherited exclusively from a person’s mother, and therefore genetic markers in this DNA can be traced back many generations to determine a person’s maternal ancestors with a high degree of certainty.

According to the rabbi, experts in Jewish genealogy and history have determined that fully 40% of all Ashkenazi Jews are descended from just four Jewish women who left the Middle East over 1,000 years ago and settled in Europe.

According to the scientific report commissioned by Eretz Hemdah for its ruling, there is a certainty of at least 90% and up to 99% that someone bearing specific genetic markers in their mitochondrial DNA is descended from one of these women.

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/New-law-says-genetic-test-valid-for-determining-Jewish-status-in-some-cases-506584
 

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The Jewish people have every right to be scared, they are being cleaned across the Arab region.

 
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Maybe most of them you know, moved to their own homeland after it was declared in 1948?
Most of them didn't move willingly. They were forced or intimidated out.

Israel is now, as it was then, a haven for persecuted and threatened Jews....
 
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Most of them didn't move willingly. They were forced or intimidated out.

Israel is now, as it was then, a haven for persecuted and threatened Jews....
I'm feeling very threatened by the the all the Muslims the president of the council of European rabbis wants to fight alongside in Europe for political advantage.


Shame I don't have a homeland to flee too. Keep hearing that Jews are fleeing Europe as a result of all the Muslim attacks.
Do they want Muslims in Europe or do they not? They need to make up their mind.
 
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I'm feeling very threatened by the the all the Muslims the president of the council of European rabbis wants to fight alongside in Europe for political advantage.


Shame I don't have a homeland to flee too. Keep hearing that Jews are fleeing Europe as a result of all the Muslim attacks.
Do they want Muslims in Europe or do they not? They need to make up their mind.

For your own mental health, don't be watching bull sh it Russia Today....:rolleyes:
 
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The Jewish people have every right to be scared, they are being cleaned across the Arab region.

This is pure black propaganda. Aliyah - Wikipedia is your answer.

Why would jews feel like they should move from Iraq 1950–51 Baghdad bombings - Wikipedia

"1950–1951 Baghdad bombings refers to a series of bombings of Jewish targets in Baghdad, Iraq, between April 1950 and June 1951."
"Two activists in the Iraqi Zionist underground were found guilty by an Iraqi court for a number of the bombings, and were sentenced to death. Another was sentenced to life imprisonment and seventeen more were given long prison sentences.[2] The allegations against Israeli agents had "wide consensus" amongst Iraqi Jews in Israel.[3][4][5][6][7] Many of the Iraqi Jews in Israel who lived in poor conditions blamed their ills and misfortunes on the Israeli Zionist emissaries or Iraqi Zionist underground movement."

"The British Embassy in Baghdad assessed that the bombings were carried out by Zionist activists trying to highlight the danger to Iraqi Jews, in order influence the State of Israel to accelerate the pace of Jewish emigration. Another possible explanation offered by the embassy was that bombs were meant to change the minds of well-off Jews who wished to stay in Iraq."


Why would jews feel like they should move from Egypt Lavon Affair - Wikipedia

"As part of the false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian targets, cinemas, libraries and American educational centers. The bombs were timed to detonate several hours after closing time. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian Communists, "unspecified malcontents" or "local nationalists" with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt's Suez Canal zone."


Lets look at Aliya of Algerian Jewry and what kind of jews the Zionists wanted at the time The Aliya of Algerian Jewry - Collection of Documents and Items of the Last Jewish Agency Delegate to Algiers, 1960-1962 | Kedem Auction LTD. The Aliya of Algerian Jewry - Collection of Documents and Items of th…

'A letter presenting to Amir the conclusions of the Zionist Congress regarding the "selection" policy: "Under no circumstances should the mentally ill, those in need of hospitalization and families with no active provider be allowed to immigrate…". * A letter expressing sharp opposition to the absorption of Algerian immigrants whose medical and social condition is difficult, since these difficulties "will prevent them from ever achieving a normal life in Israel".'


What you have is jews who would like to live in peace in countries, being displaced by the deliberate actions of Zionist's, to get them to move to Israel through fear or by generating fear within people of jews. Murdering people will have that effect on humans. Who would have thought ?

Actions of a criminal class of people blackening innocent jews world wide is your issue. Wake up.
 
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