'Italian Deputy PM Salvini attended the Dublin protest against the Global Compact on Migration' | Cork's 96FM

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Peadar O Donnell, A Socialist Republican, came up with that line -- specifically referring to Eoin O Duffy's blueshirts.

The only people who use that line today are the likes of Eirigi and other Republican "Anti-Fascist" types.
No it was aimed at Pro-Treatyites as a whole- the real falling out between Dev and the Republican Ultras a whole was not that Dev took his seat so to speak but that he did not suppress the Treatyites. Also Peader O'Donnell who also happened to be a fine novelist was much more akin to Tadgh here than the glue sniffers of Antifa.
 

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Well, as Trump said “I want to be associated with people who made good quotes”! The fact is the logic behind it is true. Ironic the traitors themselves in the Mickey-mouse rump group éirigi have the gall to call anyone else traitors.

As for O’Duffy, he was just replaying the civil war for the most part and in the 30s it was the done thing to put on a coloured shirt and raise your hand in the air. O’duffy was the IRA Chief of Staff in 1922, and he was putting the IRA in touch with the Nazis during the 40s.
Personally, I'd have ordered both O Duffy and O Donnell to be brought for a spot of Chilean skydiving.
 

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No it was aimed at Pro-Treatyites as a whole- the real falling out between Dev and the Republican Ultras a whole was not that Dev took his seat so to speak but that he did not suppress the Treatyites. Also Peader O'Donnell who also happened to be a fine novelist was much more akin to Tadgh here than the glue sniffers of Antifa.
But he's venerated by Republican AFA types.
 

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I mean more the tactic of the nationalists to engage in this American style “debate” backed with “facts” and “statistics” against enemies. We used to back our arguments with Molotov cocktails and bullets. “No free speech for traitors” wasn’t that the old line?
We dont condone violence on this site, I imagine you agree violence is not the answer and this is not what you mean with this statement?
 

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We dont condone violence on this site, I imagine you agree violence is not the answer and this is not what you mean with this statement?
People can infer from it what they will. But yes I don’t think violence would be the right action to take for any of today’s problems. I was merely stating the tactics Irish republican nationalists used to espouse.
 

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But he's venerated by Republican AFA types.
Maybe so but how much do they actually know about him? How much of his work have they read? Also given how different the context he wrote, fought and lived in to today it could be argued that it would be wrong to claim that if he was living now he definitely would hold such and such views. Though yes I did basically do that on this thread.
 

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There needs to be a far-right IRA to scare some sense into these anti-national types. Ireland was always a great country for violence and politics, the two went together like a hand and a glove. We should rediscover that old blood and guts politics which dominated Irish affairs for so long.

We used to have an international reputation for prowess. Everyone knew the Irish weren’t sitting round having pointy-headed intellectual debates, they were blasting kneecaps. Our patriots literally starved themselves to death for Ireland. The fact we’ve lost that tradition in favor of this imported “civil debate” craic is a shame. We had much more international respect when that was our MO, not being the “island at the centre of the world” and marching in St. Patrick’s Gay parade.

Any genuine IRA would do, I mean any IRA with the standard set of ideas that any IRA Vol. would have had until the 1990s.
 

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She reveals here that her family ran an off licence in London and that she left there in the early 80s which is to say shortly before I arrived in London in the mid 80s. So a couple of observations:

She slags off people complaining about immigrants coming in "taking our jobs". Well I suspect that if she had stayed in London carrying on the family business she too would be complaining about immigrants "taking our jobs". The reason I say that is that between then and now the number of White owned businesses like her family had has collapsed owing to them having been out-competed by South Asians who are willing to work every hour of the day for a lower standard of living than the existing business owners had and who have an endless supply of people coming in through family reunification schemes who will work for below the minimum wage.
I would think there are plenty among the White Off Licence Owners of 1980 who since then ended up complaining about their jobs being taken and with good justification.

She says she enjoyed the diversity of cultures and language she experienced growing up in London. Well the fact is that when she was growing up in London it was still an overwhelmingly White City. So yes I can understand that someone living in an overwhelmingly White city like it was back then could well find it interesting interacting with the sprinkling of different races, cultures and languages that one might meet in the average day.

However today it is very different, it is certain that the next census will show that Whites are a minority. And as time goes on the smaller a minority Whites will become.

And while its great craic hearing someone on the bus speaking a different language when you are used to hearing English all day that loses its allure very quickly when day after day you routinely find everyone on the bus speaking a different language.
Its interesting when you have the odd non White Person living on the road but it is rather less interesting when you are the only White person living on the road.

So she says London is great. And it is now great for all the non White Population. London has no identity any more so the non White population of London will certainly feel more at home now than when She lived there when it still had a distinct White Identity.
And if the non Whites decide they want to live around their own types again they always have the option of returning to their historical homelands. Whereas the White population of London can no longer return to the old London of their grandparents, it is gone, instead they vote with their feet and head out of London to White Areas outside of London which they are doing continuously in large numbers.
 

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Didn't notice him myself TBH

She told Coogan that it was a terrifying sight, like something out of a history book

She has probably never read one! picoms8
A representative was there as far as I know, with a flag.
Is this the same Fiona one that made the video about Gemma O Doherty and her "racist" friends last week?
 
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