Israel to invade Gaza?

Jim

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After Gaza-Israel flare-up, I would ask Hamas' military chief this one question

"Gaza's suffering will not and cannot be alleviated by any long-range rocket or armed drone. Why not try something different and recognize Israel? "
Very surprised you use the word Boer in your posting name, and be a supporter of Israel and it Genocidal policy towards the Palestinians. If you have a single drop of true Boer blood in you , Israel and the Jews , you would not defend. Are you proud and happy how the Jews were the driving force , financially , logistically, academic, treachery, propagandist, behind what is now virtually White Genocide in S. Africa. Are you proud Jews destroyed White Governance in S. Africa and used Black stooges as their proxy army , to seize that country vast resources for themselves , and they now Govern from the shadows. Most Boer /Afrikaner people, are only now awaking to this fact , that it not Blacks in control, of the lever of power, and the vast mineral , real estate, media, finance house, Banking, Academia, but Jews.
 

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Utterly non-sensical

I'm the Nazi on this site and I love the Juice
Then send a love letter to Olli, you can share ethnic cleansing fantasies. Israelis love Nazis too you know.

 

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Then send a love letter to Olli, you can share ethnic cleansing fantasies. Israelis love Nazis too you know.

Oli doesn't accept, or know, what Islam stands for. The Juice are largely secular.
 

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Then send a love letter to Olli, you can share ethnic cleansing fantasies. Israelis love Nazis too you know.

No, Israelis don't.

Every country has their religious extremists.

Get rid of those bloody yeshivas, sure.

Or at least clean them up, monitor them carefully, just as mosques should be.

But let's not try and generalise from this. Sure, some people will try to, but that is more revealing of themselves than anything else.

Israeli society is increasingly secular. More and more Jews are turning away from religious belief and toward cultural identification.

Even among the minority 8% of Israel's population that defines itself as ultra-Orthodox, very few if any would have the views of the extremist Rabbi you cite.

But why don't you take up the many bigoted catholic god-botherers that infest this site extolling Hitler, Stalin and their likes, condemning everyone different to themselves etc.

I wonder why they don't seem to bother you as much as this asshole Rabbi in Israel. :rolleyes:
 

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No, Israelis don't.

Every country has their religious extremists.

Get rid of those bloody yeshivas, sure.

Israeli society is increasingly secular. More and more Jews are turning away from religious belief and toward cultural identification.
It wasn't at a Yeshiva though but a top military academia and the Rabbi in question was Modern Orthodox and NOT Haredi. Also Religion is growing in Palestine among Jews and not decreasing. The young are much more likely to be observant than their parents. This trend is seen within Jewish communities outside of Palestine as well. If you get rid of those "bloody Yeshivas" Jewish identity than becomes based solely on anti-Semitism and support for the ethnic cleansing and murder of the indigenous population in Palestine which are pretty crap things to base your identity on- anti-Semitism being something irrational (Jews are not a biological race) and what has happened and still happening to the indigenous population of Palestine is utterly unethical.

The kids are all right-wing: How Israel's younger voters have grown more conservative over time - Jewish Telegraphic Agency

Something that is very note worthy is that the humane and universalistic Modern Orthodoxy of a Professor Yeshayahu Leibowitz or a Yehoshua Radler-Feldman has completely died out. Of course after the disengagement from Gaza of the Settlements Kookian ideology has taken a massive blow and is not popular at all now among the youth of the "National Religious sector", guess who is filling the void? Rabbi Meir Kahane and to a lesser Rebbe Nachman (who was most likely bi-polar), you should read the important essay Professor Shaul Magid wrote on this topic for Tablet (Tablet being a fanatical Zionist magazine of the "Centre"):

Kahane Won
 

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No, Israelis don't.

Every country has their religious extremists.

Get rid of those bloody yeshivas, sure.

Or at least clean them up, monitor them carefully, just as mosques should be.

But let's not try and generalise from this. Sure, some people will try to, but that is more revealing of themselves than anything else.

Israeli society is increasingly secular. More and more Jews are turning away from religious belief and toward cultural identification.

Even among the minority 8% of Israel's population that defines itself as ultra-Orthodox, very few if any would have the views of the extremist Rabbi you cite.

But why don't you take up the many bigoted catholic god-botherers that infest this site extolling Hitler, Stalin and their likes, condemning everyone different to themselves etc.

I wonder why they don't seem to bother you as much as this asshole Rabbi in Israel. :rolleyes:
Israel is realising the Nazi dream.

You stole that from them, Israelis live in two worlds - holding two opposite ideas simultaneously in their heads. You complain about the Nazis and then you implement their ideas. You complain about Venezuelan soldiers beating up protesters and then you support your snipers tearing apart the bodies of unarmed protesters. The secular Israeli may be more sane than his Orthodox counterpart but he is no less implicated in the crimes and outrages of the state.
 

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... snipers tearing apart the bodies of unarmed protesters... the crimes and outrages of the state...
Ah the usual disingenuous crap, their "crimes" to justify the hatred and hoped for retribution.

Whereas the reality is as most informed, fair-minded people well realise.


Fix link.
 
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Ah the usual disingenuous crap, their "crimes" to justify the hatred and hoped for retribution.

Whereas the reality is as most informed, fair-minded people well realise.
Thank you fixing the link however even if it is true it hardly justifies the use of vastly disproportionate violence by the Zionists, now does it? Gaza is being strangled and will soon be incapable of maintaining human life. The fact that so many Gazans have been willing to sacrifice their lives and limbs and as you should now contemporary Zionism uses bullets on the indigenous population designed to open up inside and do maximum damage which is why you find so many crippled people in Gaza and the West Bank.

The whole thing that you, roc_, Speedfreak and Poster Without a Name bring up about retribution is interesting- Palestinian Islam has plenty of resources for forgiveness as even Zionist ideologues such as Yossi Halevi (who is considered a public intellectual in Palestine among Jews-LOL!) have admitted, but are those sources for forgiveness their in Jewish culture? This is a serious question. And as the Zionist project becomes more and more Religious with Religious Zionism ceasing to be an eccentric side show and taking centre stage along with the mass exodus of European Jews from Western and Central Europe- this issue is gravely important.

I think Rabbi Menacham Froman who after DrFathi Shaqaqi was the most interesting person of the conflict showed the way (Rabbi David Hartman in my analysis was a propagandist scumbag- Menacham Froman was the real deal).
 

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The majority of Gazans killed in the latest escalation have been claimed by Hamas, Islamic Jihad and other terrorists.

These fighters were killed when they hid among women and children in civilian areas. Barbaric cowards.


 

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... The whole thing that you, roc_, Speedfreak and Poster Without a Name bring up about retribution is interesting...
It's not bloody "interesting", it's glaringly obvious.

Every single pogrom and other atrocity ever perpetuated against Jews in the course of history were justified by the "crimes" with which they were accused.

In the Nazi era the "crimes" which justified the Holocaust and the world turning their face from their plight, included accusations such as their engaging in ritual murder of children, their being the orchestrators of the imperialist power of Great Britain, and the world economy and media; their manipulating the financial system, their being intent on "extermination", "murder", "genocide", "ethnic-cleansing" of the German people, their perpetuation of a "genocide" of a people through famine (Holodomr), their being intent on provoking another World War, and so on.

As I've told you before, anti Semitism through the ages has ALWAYS been about getting retributive "justice".

"Justice" because they killed Christ.
"Justice" because they invented Christ, by producing monotheism.
"Justice" because they were plutocrats bent on dominating the world and oppressing the humble people.
"Justice" because they desecrated the communion host.
"Justice" because they kidnapped children to use their blood in rituals.
"Justice" because they were usurers and swindlers.
"Justice" because they contaminated the racial purity of the Aryan.......

And likewise today retributive justice is again always implied if you listen, stored up for its eventual culmination in deed.

"Justice" because Zionism is racism.
"Justice" because Zionists are the same as Nazis.
"Justice" because Zionists support an illegitimate and deeply guilty state.
"Justice" because Israel is apartheid.
"Justice" because they exaggerate and exploit their own martyrdom and victim status.
"Justice" because they minimise the victimhood of other people.
"Justice" because they kill innocent Palestinian children.......

There has never been "forgiveness" in this kind of mob justice and these type of people in history - oh sure it may be a device within some mob ontogenesis to say on a Thursday oh, we forgive you, you just have to acknowledge these accusations to us, your benevolent protectors. But come Friday night and the raising of a different type of mob cry, that inevitably brings on a different face.
 
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