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Is the west heading to war with Iran ?

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The Field Marshal

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I think you underestimate the degree of anti mullah feeling in Iran
Iranians are western orientated and are not a naturally religious people
They are sick to death of these Mullahs telling them how they should live their lives
At the first available opportunity the people will come out on the streets and overthrow their corrupt rulers
The regime has managed to keep them down in recent times but now that the money is running out that won't be so easy
Head in the sand stuff I’m afraid.
 

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That I agree with you on.
Although it's a more Urban (anti-religious) Vs Rural (religious) backdrop.
However, let the overthrow happen organically.
History should tell you that outside influence in overthrowing their leaders has unforeseen (and drastic) consequences !
Yes absolutely - Iranians themselves should be the ones to overthrow the regime
But within the context of sanctions - we should not be buying anything from them because the money will be used to suppress their own population.
And also, they must not be allowed to get away with that drone attack on Saudi oil infrastructure - it will only encourage further attacks apart from anything else. So their military infrastructure needs to be dismantled to ensure it doesn't happen again.
 

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The CIA would be proud of the ANTI-iRAN propaganda by its ;useful idiots;. So much ignorance of the true facts on the ground is a tribute to the power of the Fake Western Media on low IQ morons with sponge absorbent brains. Question more.
 

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The Iranians hold all the ace cards in any confrontation in the Persian Gulf.

1. They control the bottle neck Straits of Hormuz thru' which flows over 30% of Western oil supply, the lifeblood of Western economies.
Should they block it ,an economic and financial collapse of mega proprtions would occur.
2. The recent attack on Saudi oil facilities, whether by Houthi or not ,but certainly using Iranian developed drone and missile technology , is a warning to Saudi of their vulnerability to complete annihilation of their civilisation by Iran. Power ,water and oil are all easy targets.
3. Having spent $68billion on US weapons in 2018, the drone attack has shown that Saudi has no defence against relatively cheap homemade drone warfare from primitive tribesmen in Yemen.
4. The drone attack was a warning and a humiliation to the US Military defence capabilities in Saudi.
5. The US Carrier Fleet is based in Bahrain and is a sitting duck against a missile/drone attack. They can also be confined in a Cauldron by closing the Straits of Hormuz. It would be like shooting fish in a barrel.
5. The biggest loser in the drone attack is the Saudi Leader Prince Muhammad bin Salman. He has lost credibility. He has a flotation of 5% of Aramco Oil Co coming up in a few weeks. This is likely to be a failure. Who buys into a company whose assets can be wiped out overnight.
MBS needs that money to finance an Industrial development programme and the Saudi budget is in bad state.
MBS may be overthrown in a Palace coup and Saudi make peace with Yemen. Saudi has just realised they are between a rock and a hard place and their former Protectors are paper tigers.
6. Cui Bono, who gains from the drone attack. Certainly oil companies ,with higher oil prices at the expense of consumers and possible knock on effects of inflation in the West.
Russia, Venezuela, Iran, US are major oil producers and gain from the price rise. US Frackers need a high price to offset high costs of fracking.
Iran and Yemen politically against Saudi and their supporters US and Israel.
7. This drone attack on Saudi is a Geopolitical and military turning point. It has been a David versus Golitath event and David instead of a slingshot, used a drone.
There certainly has been deep strategic thinking behind this attack and Iran must have been behind that strategy and have gained several objectives. They have plausible deniability in not directly being 'hands on' in firing the missiles /drones.
 
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Yes absolutely - Israelis themselves should be the ones to overthrow the regime
But within the context of sanctions - we should not be buying anything from them because the money will be used to suppress the palestinian population.
And also, they must not be allowed to get away with that attack on Palestinian infrastructure - it will only encourage further attacks apart from anything else. So their military infrastructure needs to be dismantled to ensure it doesn't happen again.

There...I've fixed that for you to put it in context!!

What's good for the gander and all that!:ROFLMAO:
 

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There...I've fixed that for you to put it in context!!

What's good for the gander and all that!:ROFLMAO:
Reported for editing another persons post
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Can you not remember anything they taught you in mod school?
 

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Can you not remember anything they taught you in mod school?
I put all my changes in bold and told you "I fixed it for you"
to indicate clearly that it was edited

This is a standard trope to show up a posters total hypocrisy
It is obviously not a sly attempt to deceive people that you posted something you didn't

which is the issue the "no editing" rule is addressing.

You know this perfectly well of course don't you Dorkarse3

You zionist apologists just can't handle creative criticism!! :ROFLMAO:
 

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Can you not remember anything they taught you in mod school?
You're just a sanctimonious hypocrite.
He made it abundantly clear that he was editing your turgid warmongering post for rhetorical effect.

I propose a new by-law on this site. No propaganda for Mass Killing.
That means you.
 

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The Iranians hold all the ace cards in any confrontation in the Persian Gulf.

1. They control the bottle neck Straits of Hormuz thru' which flows over 30% of Western oil supply, the lifeblood of Western economies.
Should they block it ,an economic and financial collapse of mega proprtions would occur.
2. The recent attack on Saudi oil facilities, whether by Houthi or not ,but certainly using Iranian developed drone and missile technology , is a warning to Saudi of their vulnerability to complete annihilation of their civilisation by Iran. Power ,water and oil are all easy targets.
3. Having spent $68billion on US weapons in 2018, the drone attack has shown that Saudi has no defence against relatively cheap homemade drone warfare from primitive tribesmen in Yemen.
4. The drone attack was a warning and a humiliation to the US Military defence capabilities in Saudi.
5. The US Carrier Fleet is based in Bahrain and is a sitting duck against a missile/drone attack. They can also be confined in a Cauldron by closing the Straits of Hormuz. It would be like shooting fish in a barrel.
5. The biggest loser in the drone attack is the Saudi Leader Prince Muhammad bin Salman. He has lost credibility. He has a flotation of 5% of Aramco Oil Co coming up in a few weeks. This is likely to be a failure. Who buys into a company whose assets can be wiped out overnight.
MBS needs that money to finance an Industrial development programme and the Saudi budget is in bad state.
MBS may be overthrown in a Palace coup and Saudi make peace with Yemen. Saudi has just realised they are between a rock and a hard place and their former Protectors are paper tigers.
6. Cui Bono, who gains from the drone attack. Certainly oil companies ,with higher oil prices at the expense of consumers and possible knock on effects of inflation in the West.
Russia, Venezuela, Iran, US are major oil producers and gain from the price rise. US Frackers need a high price to offset high costs of fracking.
Iran and Yemen politically against Saudi and their supporters US and Israel.
7. This drone attack on Saudi is a Geopolitical and military turning point. It has been a David versus Golitath event and David instead of a slingshot, used a drone.
There certainly has been deep strategic thinking behind this attack and Iran must have been behind that strategy and have gained several objectives. They have plausible deniability in not directly being 'hands on' in firing the missiles /drones.
There is a certain amount of truth in what you are saying. But the reality is that a combined US/Saudi attack on Iran would wipe out its entire military infrastructure in a matter of hours. It would likely be over before any of us even hear about it.
The locations of all of their military assets including their leaders are constantly under surveillance and wouldn't last long in an attack - with few if any casualties on the US/Saudi side.
You only have to look at how the Russians carpet bombed Syria with hardly any casualties on their side to see how technological and aid superiority can subdue an entire country.
 
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