Is the west heading to war with Iran ?

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If it wasn't for the tiny detail that many of the power brokers in the region have repeatedly announced and re-announced their intention to wipe Israel off the map I reckon Israel could be sold on that plan.
Nonsense. The Zionist project has long term plans to expand it's borders for one thing and also we have to remember that it plans if ever under "existential threat" they will launch all their nuclear weapons on several different targets including the UK. Read up on the "Samson Option". It is all well documented and not by cranks such as David Duke. This means that there will be no attempts to actually wipe the Jewish supremacist state off the map. Plus a state for all it's citizens within the Green Line would get in the way of "Israel" being a global hub for organized crime.
 

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No mention is ever made of the estimated 400 nukes held by Israel, who have never signed any kind of Nuclear peace or non-proliferation deal. Israel,the only nuclear Armed State in the Middle East. No sanctions ,no condemnation ,zilch. Its the Benjamins Baby
 

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If it wasn't for the tiny detail that many of the power brokers in the region have repeatedly announced and re-announced their intention to wipe Israel off the map I reckon Israel could be sold on that plan.

That's utter nonsense. Who are these power brokers? Saudi Arabia? Turkey? Iran? Egypt?
Don't bother calling Palestinians power brokers, they're the most powerless people on earth.

It's the same old whine from the Israel shills. 200 nuclear weapons is a strong argument against any stupid words.
Grow Up and deal with reality, not fantasies.
 

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Nonsense. The Zionist project has long term plans to expand it's borders for one thing and also we have to remember that it plans if ever under "existential threat" they will launch all their nuclear weapons on several different targets including the UK. Read up on the "Samson Option". It is all well documented and not by cranks such as David Duke. This means that there will be no attempts to actually wipe the Jewish supremacist state off the map. Plus a state for all it's citizens within the Green Line would get in the way of "Israel" being a global hub for organized crime.
What bit exactly is nonsense?
Are you saying that it is nonsense to say that powerful forces in the region are continually stating and restating their intention of wiping Israel of the map?

Or do you accept that the people who you think Israel should be negotiating with do have as their top priority wiping Israel off the map but it is nonsense for Israel to factor that into their decision as to whether or not they should negotiate with them in good faith?
 

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That's utter nonsense. Who are these power brokers? Saudi Arabia? Turkey? Iran? Egypt?
Don't bother calling Palestinians power brokers, they're the most powerless people on earth.

It's the same old whine from the Israel shills. 200 nuclear weapons is a strong argument against any stupid words.
Grow Up and deal with reality, not fantasies.
The primary Government that wants to wipe Israel off the map is of course Iran, you know the country with the Uranium enrichment program.
Of course there are lots of smaller organisations who want to also wipe Israel off the map against whom Nuclear weapons aren't a lot of use. The threat to Israel from them is continuous terrorist attacks if Israel gives them the slightest inch on its borders, attacks that will never end as long as Israel exists.

Israel has been attacked by its neighbours twice in the last 50 years and knows that if ever those neighbours thought their was a chance of them defeating Israel that they would likely be attacked again. Hence it being quite reasonable of Israel not to give them the steam off their proverbial.
 
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Nope there will be no war, instead you will see an end to the agreement that was made under the Obama administartionand replaced with a new one with Trump.
 
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What bit exactly is nonsense?
Are you saying that it is nonsense to say that powerful forces in the region are continually stating and restating their intention of wiping Israel of the map?

Or do you accept that the people who you think Israel should be negotiating with do have as their top priority wiping Israel off the map but it is nonsense for Israel to factor that into their decision as to whether or not they should negotiate with them in good faith?
That was never said by the Iranian administarion, more hasbara propaganda.
 

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The primary Government that wants to wipe Israel off the map is of course Iran, you know the country with the Uranium enrichment program.
Of course there are lots of smaller organisations who want to also wipe Israel off the map against whom Nuclear weapons aren't a lot of use. The threat to Israel from them is continuous terrorist attacks if Israel gives them the slightest inch on its borders, attacks that will never end as long as Israel exists.

Israel has been attacked by its neighbours twice in the last 50 years and knows that if ever those neighbours thought their was a chance of them defeating Israel that they would likely be attacked again. Hence it being quite reasonable of Israel not to give them the steam off their proverbial.
Israel has launched all of the wars save one. Suez, Six Day, invasions of Lebanon, Invasions of Gaza, all Israel instigated.
The 73 war was started by Egypt and Syria. Which they were fully entitled to do, since Israel had not given back stolen territory.

As to Iran's desires and what it hopes to achieve, you know nothing of Iran, so quit talking tripe.

Better still explain why Israel has several hundred nuclear weapons, but no other country in the region is allowed to defend itself against them.
 

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If it wasn't for the tiny detail that many of the power brokers in the region have repeatedly announced and re-announced their intention to wipe Israel off the map I reckon Israel could be sold on that plan.
Sure if you ignore reality.

Namely that Israel is expanding.

And it's rivals in the region are being wiped out (Saddam, Gadaffi, attempt on Assad, Arafat).
 

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The Iranian Seizure of an UK vessel in Omani waters exposes the weakness of UK Security Arrangements in The Gulf.
 

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Nonsense. The Zionist project has long term plans to expand it's borders for one thing and also we have to remember that it plans if ever under "existential threat" they will launch all their nuclear weapons on several different targets including the UK. Read up on the "Samson Option". It is all well documented and not by cranks such as David Duke. This means that there will be no attempts to actually wipe the Jewish supremacist state off the map. Plus a state for all it's citizens within the Green Line would get in the way of "Israel" being a global hub for organized crime.
Funny that you and the other Iranian fans never mention their plan:-
a Shia corridor to the Mediterranean.....:unsure:
 
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