Irish Presidential Election 2018

Who will you be voting for in the Irish Presidential Election ?

  • Michael D Higgins

    Votes: 27 22.0%
  • Peter Casey

    Votes: 36 29.3%
  • Liadh Ni Riada

    Votes: 9 7.3%
  • Sean Gallagher

    Votes: 10 8.1%
  • Gavin Duffy

    Votes: 3 2.4%
  • Joan Freeman

    Votes: 8 6.5%
  • Cant Vote/Wont Vote

    Votes: 30 24.4%

  • Total voters
    123
  • Poll closed .
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The only way to truly "represent the people" is through sortition. Gallagher is just using this as a sound-bite. It's farcical when proper politicians say it, but even moreso when those going for the Presidency say it!
A synonym for politician is representative. So I don't see a problem in using that "represent the people" phraseology in pitching for a national level position if one takes the regime at face value.

Gallagher is just an unsympathetic business candidate. Him playing these election games is very transparent. We may rightly see Higgins as some sort of caliguan snowflake nutter here on these forums but he has mainstream cred as a congenial centre left old guy and people like having the 'nice guy' in the top job as it appeases their conscience.

In short, Gallagher's bacon is cooked, he can't answer the referendum question without seeming to be either 'out of time' or just calculating to kill a question. Basically the decisive margin in the referendum has had the indirect consequence of MDH winning his 2nd term.
 
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Representing all the people is nonsense and undoable. How could he equally represent the abortionists and the pro-lifers? He'll just wind up not representing anyone.

I take your point, but I still disagree. It made political sense to say what he said.
I take it you will agree that the purpose of political campaigning is to get elected?

To do that you must win a majority of votes.

Gallagher has alienated many potential voters by revealing that he voted yes in the two referenda mentioned.
He alienates those who voted opposite to him and also those who voted in agreement because his promise to be a president for all the voters is a sham.
It is a sham because Gallagher in revealing his sympathies for a particular side automatically alienates the other side and thus displays an absence of political prudence.

It might win him some votes but only from those who lack discernment as to the qualities required in a president who is meant to be above politics.
 

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Higgins posters up over Limerick, not seen anyone else make the effort yet.
 
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I knew I was right about him lol. He'll make the Left wail, which is a nice victory in itself.
What the fuck is she on about.
There is nothing in the Constitution about "neutrality"
We are non-aligned
i.e. not part of a formal military alliance.

We are neutral on conflicts on a case by case basis for example we where neutral in WW2
but we are currently taking part in Afghanistan, Mali and Somalia conflicts by training government troops in those wars.
The ignorance of basic terms and reality is incredible.
 
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Michael D Higgins has faced a series of questions about an annual €317,000 allowance paid to Áras an Uachtarain.
He has committed to publishing details on how the money is spent – but conveniently it won’t be until after
the presidential election.

So much for 'transparency'.
He said so after pushing the reporters to "trust" him that it was all spent accordingly ? but still will not explain (even the easily identifiable big stuff) where the money went until after the election,, you cannot trust this clown,

1) One Term only ? = lies
2) Signs a book of condolences for a murdering dictator ? = scumbag, (bet he didn't sign any books for Castro's victims ?? )
3) Lived it up like a Lord for seven years and off the back of being a socialist ? more fooking lies
4) Used the old Fr Ted, that money was only resting in my account bullsh1te when we found out about the 2 million he had to blow over 7 years
5) Is afraid of Claire Byrne and any real debate into his crap,, like sending out Christmas messages without mentioning Christianity ?? or trying to kid anyone he could about the squeezed middle but runs around like Bono throwing virtue signals all over the shop ( oh,, that sh1t is well past its sell by date)

I am voting 100% in ABH mode - Anyone but Higgins,, he has been a national embarrassment , a virtue signaling hypocrite and to top it all, he is a fooking cretin that spoofs that he is part of the "intelligentsia" ,, he is no such thing, he is a moron spewing out third rate socialist crap all his life and just waited long enough ,, I would be glad to see the back of this clown,
 
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He said so after pushing the reporters to "trust" him that it was all spent accordingly ? but still will not explain (even the easily identifiable big stuff) where the money went until after the election,, you cannot trust this clown,

1) One Term only ? = lies
2) Signs a book of condolences for a murdering dictator ? = scumbag, (bet he didn't sign any books for Castro's victims ?? )
3) Lived it up like a Lord for seven years and off the back of being a socialist ? more fooking lies
4) Used the old Fr Ted, that money was only resting in my account bullsh1te when we found out about the 2 million he had to blow over 7 years
5) Is afraid of Claire Byrne and any real debate into his crap,, like sending out Christmas messages without mentioning Christianity ?? or trying to kid anyone he could about the squeezed middle but runs around like Bono throwing virtue signals all over the shop ( oh,, that sh1t is well past its sell by date)

I am voting 100% in ABH mode - Anyone but Higgins,, he has been a national embarrassment , a virtue signaling hypocrite and to top it all, he is a fooking cretin that spoofs that he is part of the "intelligentsia" ,, he is no such thing, he is a moron spewing out third rate socialist crap all his life and just waited long enough ,, I would be glad to see the back of this clown,
Great post as always, Storybud. Why isn't their more pressure on him to disclose how this extra money was used? The media have been set on ensuring Higgins gets elected for a second term and there refusal to pursue this story tells you all you need to know about these libtards.
 
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