Immigration, Good or Bad ? Open Debate thread.

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But the lads playing cricket are Irish.

Soccer and Rugby and English games but nobody complains about them, Cricket is just a Sport Tadhg, cant see the issue.

You mean those on the international team at the moment are Irish. But any international team depends on a whole support base of those who play or are interested in the game but are not on the international team. But don't take my word for it, here's what the Irish Times had to say:

The bowler's team mates on the day include Mustafa Shuja, from Pakistan, who is playing in his second season for the home club, and Irishman Rangan Arulchelvan, formerly from Sri Lanka, who has been living here for 25 years. In all there are about 10 Pakistanis and Indians playing for Railway Union in Co Dublin.

They represent the recent sea change in Irish men's cricket as immigrants from cricket-playing nations - South Africa, Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka, Australia and New Zealand - have brought their love of cricket, and their skill, to Irish clubs. The result is a significant boost in the numbers playing, as well as an undisputed improvement in the standard of cricket.


"Cricket has grown hugely in recent years," says Fergus Carroll, PRO of the Leinster Cricket Union. "The overseas players have absolutely increased the standard of club cricket, particularly the batting. It has gone way higher."
In North Kildare club, about half of the 60-strong membership are from foreign cricket-playing countries and in Ballyhaunis, Co Mayo, the local team is made up entirely of Pakistani immigrants, many of whom initially moved here to work in local meat factories.


Cricket enjoys run of success
 

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It is great to see the British having a full, open and honest debate on the issue. Per capita, we have a larger immigrant population than the UK. Other than one or two slightly negative articles it's never been discussed openly in the media or debated in The Dail by our elected representatives.

Which is staggering considering that we had one of the most homogenous populations in the the EU 15, yet now have the fifth largest immigrant population in the EU 28. The demographic change in this country has been absolutely staggering, yet it is never discussed in public.

Why?

Because the free state is a banana régime, run for the benefit of a tiny clique. The vast majority of Irish people are totally excluded from decision making.
 

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It is great to see the British having a full, open and honest debate on the issue. Per capita, we have a larger immigrant population than the UK. Other than one or two slightly negative articles it's never been discussed openly in the media or debated in The Dail by our elected representatives.

Which is staggering considering that we had one of the most homogenous populations in the the EU 15, yet now have the fifth largest immigrant population in the EU 28. The demographic change in this country has been absolutely staggering, yet it is never discussed in public.

Why?
Why? Because Europe owns the state, and by default, the state media, and we won't be allowed to question one of the key bedrocks of the European project- mass immigration/free flow of (cheap)labour.
 
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But Ireland is flooded with Indians and Pakistanis, with more coming in by the day, and we do have an Indian Taoiseach, these are statements of fact. What pisses you off about it?
A question for all those who are from Jesuit schools on this website - are you able to claim yourselves to be "spanish" or at least taught in the tradition of Spanish and Portugues priests but not take any of the baggage that comes from the religious order that colonised most of the Indian Pakistani Chinese and Japanese world. Surely you can't be anti-immigration if you have been taught in one of these schools and support the school you were taught at?

And on another point what about those Japanese aristocrats who squashed the Spanish POrtugeuse Evangelisation of Japan? Are you seriously saying you side with the Japanese and don't support foreign cultures or religions taking over in a foreign land?
 
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A question for all those who are from Jesuit schools on this website - are you able to claim yourselves to be "spanish" or at least taught in the tradition of Spanish and Portugues priests but not take any of the baggage that comes from the religious order that colonised most of the Indian Pakistani Chinese and Japanese world. Surely you can't be anti-immigration if you have been taught in one of these schools and support the school you were taught at?

And on another point what about those Japanese aristocrats who squashed the Spanish POrtugeuse Evangelisation of Japan? Are you seriously saying you side with the Japanese and don't support foreign cultures or religions taking over in a foreign land?

Nobody here is "anti-immigration".
We are not looking to deport Chinese restaurant owners, French chefs or Indian brain surgeons.
People just want a working system that allows the good ones in and the bad ones out.
We dont "need" Big Issue sellers from Romania or car windscreen cleaners from Moldovia, nor is there a shortage of Taxi drivers from Nigeria.
 

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Nobody here is "anti-immigration".
We are not looking to deport Chinese restaurant owners, French chefs or Indian brain surgeons.
People just want a working system that allows the good ones in and the bad ones out.
We dont "need" Big Issue sellers from Romania or car windscreen cleaners from Moldovia, nor is there a shortage of Taxi drivers from Nigeria.

I'd have a problem with an Indian brain surgeon working here. He is much more needed in his own county - and the poor of India sacrificed to educate and train him. Leaving his country to come here for better wages is treason, and the mark of a coward and a blackguard.
 
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I'd have a problem with an Indian brain surgeon working here. He is much more needed in his own county - and the poor of India sacrificed to educate and train him. Leaving his country to come here for better wages is treason, and the mark of a coward and a blackguard.
'De poowarr' of India sacrificed nothing; he owes them nothing.

India's loss is our gain.
If India -- or any other third world sh1th0le -- was serious about retaining individuals like our hypothetical brain surgeon, they'd strive to develop the institutions that ensure a prosperous society and make it worth his while staying.

In a world more interconnected than it's ever been in human history, it'll take more than vapid appeals to patriotism to persuade the best and brightest to stay put.
 

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Of course its bad, ive yet to see anyone actually tell me how its good for any economy apart from the spiel of how its boosts our economic growth.

BULLSHIT

Someone show me the truth!
 
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Of course its bad, ive yet to see anyone actually tell me how its good for any economy apart from the spiel of how its boosts our economic growth.

BULLSHIT

Someone show me the truth!
The likes of the Syrian 'refugees' will be a net drain on their host societies; so much for paying for German pensioners.
 

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