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Wearing a criminal uniform would have been more unbecoming. However, Adams negotiated the GFA where they all had to sign out as criminals on license anyway.
It was a difficult decision surely. But I would not have been able to support it. The IRA should've seen themselves as a modern incarnation of the Fianna; not as mucksavage revolutionaries in faux solidarity with third world barbarians.

Ailtirí na hAiséirghe should've become the political wing of the Republican movement during the break between SF and the IRA.
 

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It was a difficult decision surely. But I would not have been able to support it. The IRA should've seen themselves as a modern incarnation of the Fianna; not as mucksavage revolutionaries in faux solidarity with third world barbarians.

Ailtirí na hAiséirghe should've become the political wing of the Republican movement during the break between SF and the IRA.

Your arrogant and misguided attitude to other colonized peoples will make sure you never get anywhere, a chara. The Irish are not better than Africans or Asians or Native Americans. In fact, if you did make a hierarchy of merit and virtue, you'd have to put today's Irish very near the bottom - probably just above the English and the Yanks - but at least the English had the guts to vote for Brexit. Today's Germans and French are in the gutter too.
 

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Your arrogant and misguided attitude to other colonized peoples will make sure you never get anywhere, a chara. The Irish are not better than Africans or Asians or Native Americans. In fact, if you did make a hierarchy of merit and virtue, you'd have to put today's Irish very near the bottom - probably just above the English and the Yanks - but at least the English had the guts to vote for Brexit. Today's Germans and French are in the gutter too.
We're not the same as them and comparing the noble war of a noble people to third world desert skirmishes is an insult to Ireland's honour.

Surely today the Irish people are seriously warped. And ever since the surrender of 1922 we've been on the whole a feeble people who never dealt with the psychological damage that 800 years of abuse and humiliation caused us. So no wonder we've felt the need to degrade ourselves in everything we do and play the perpetual victim.
 

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We're not the same as them and comparing the noble war of a noble people to third world desert skirmishes is an insult to Ireland's honour.

Surely today the Irish people are seriously warped. And ever since the surrender of 1922 we've been on the whole a feeble people who never dealt with the psychological damage that 800 years of abuse and humiliation caused us. So no wonder we've felt the need to degrade ourselves in everything we do and play the perpetual victim.

What makes you think the Celts are more noble than the Arabs? Because we have white skin? Or because we speak English? Us speaking English is a mark of defeat and degeneracy.
 

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And don't forget that the PIRA could not have been an effective military force without the anti-imperialist solidarity it got from Libya. Most of what Libya gave to Ireland was wasted by the disastrous leadership of Adams and McGuinness, but what was used was used very effectively - particularly by South Armagh Brigade.
 

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What makes you think the Celts are more noble than the Arabs? Because we have white skin? Or because we speak English? Us speaking English is a mark of defeat and degeneracy.
Naturally not because we speak English. That is ridiculous to suggest. Irish was regarded as the best of the languages scattered by God after the fall of the tower of Babel. I regret that we speak English. I'm not a snob about Irish either though and I have little respect for those who are.

Arabs are noble in their own way. As are others. But we aren't them. I regard Ireland as being above all other nations. We don't need to find justification for Irish nationhood in victimhood or even bland appeals to democracy. We're a Nation which has a right to exist and to be the greatest we can be. There's no limit to our potential which was endowed in us by God.
 

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I think your perception of what I believe in isn't necessarily true. I don't want to just freeze Ireland in the 1950s eternally. But I suppose you know that and didn't necessarily state it ether.

What would your liberal society look like?
"I don't want to just freeze Ireland in the 1950s eternally"

I don't think it was too much of a strawman on my part.
Your politics -- and that of a few others here -- seems to be a blend of anemoia and glorification of state autocracy.
I can't, however hard I try, shrug off that impression.

As for my ideal liberal society, something resembling Swiss style federalism would be my preference.
The lion's share of political power (Education, welfare, policing etc) should be implemented locally and national government's responsibilities limited, for the most part, to foreign affairs, the courts, and the military.
Private civil society organisations would also have a far greater role to play in matters of collective interest.

Immigration and naturalisation would resemble the organic free association that occurs in everyday life as closely as possible.
Immigrants would first have to become citizens of their local community before they became national citizens, and local communities would have the right to deny residency to non-citizens.
National government's input would be minimal.

(This setup gets an approving nod from me)

Both local and national government would be kept in check by a constitutional framework that upholds -- among other rights -- Freedom of speech, Freedom of association, competition of currency (similar to Panama's constitutional amendment) property rights and, in time, a prohibition on income tax.

The abolition of victimless crimes, although tricky, is something I'd also like to see constitutionally enshrined.
But local government should retain the right to restrict,or even prohibit, the commercial aspects of such activities -- similar to how local governments have to right to prohibit cannabis sales in Colorado.
 
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I don't describe myself as a "Conservative"- I describe myself as a Christian Socialist Realist. I do though admire Padraig Pearse far more though than I admire Nietzsche. Pearse though was no "Conservative". In fact he had a tremendous amount of conflict with Daniel O'Connell Catholics through out his life.
Here's the main difference between your politics and mine: You could live out much of your vision in my ideal society, I couldn't in yours.
 

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"I don't want to just freeze Ireland in the 1950s eternally"

I don't think it was too much of a strawman on my part.
Your politics -- and that of a few others here -- seems to be a blend of anemoia and glorification of state autocracy.
I can't, however hard I try, shrug off that impression.

As for my ideal liberal society, something resembling Swiss style federalism would be my preference.
The lion's share of political power (Education, welfare, policing etc) should be implemented locally and national government's responsibilities limited, for the most part, to foreign affairs, the courts, and the military.
Private civil society organisations would also have a far greater role to play in matters of collective interest.

Immigration and naturalisation would resemble the organic free association that occurs in everyday life as closely as possible.
Immigrants would first have to become citizens of their local community before they became national citizens, and local communities would have the right to deny residency to non-citizens.
National government's input would be minimal.

(This setup gets an approving nod from me)

Both local and national government would be kept in check by a constitutional framework that upholds -- among other rights -- Freedom of speech, Freedom of association, competition of currency (similar to Panama's constitutional amendment) property rights and, in time, a prohibition on income tax.

The abolition of victimless crimes, although tricky, is something I'd also like to see constitutionally enshrined.
But local government should retain the right to restrict,or even prohibit, the commercial aspects of such activities -- similar to how local governments have to right to prohibit cannabis sales in Colorado.
You're more of an anarchist than anything. Thomas Hobbes' liberalism is more in line with my thinking than anything you've said here. There needs to be strong state authority and a sovereign to guarantee fundamental rights such as private property. Your ideal society would likely collapse under the weight of its own contradictions and would descend into chaos.
 

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You're more of an anarchist than anything. Thomas Hobbes' liberalism is more in line with my thinking than anything you've said here. There needs to be strong state authority and a sovereign to guarantee fundamental rights such as private property. Your ideal society would likely collapse under the weight of its own contradictions and would descend into chaos.
I'm more of a minarchist.
Also a limited government doesn't imply a weak state; I don't entirely disagree with Hobbes.

And most of what I've suggested exists in some shape or form.
In fact, nationstates as we know them today are a very recent phenomena.
Largely self governing cantons were the mainstay of Europe for far longer.

Haven't said that, there are anarchic variants of classical liberalism.
Anarcho capitalism (Championed by Stefan Molyneux, among others) is one such ideology.
 

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Here's the main difference between your politics and mine: You could live out much of your vision in my ideal society, I couldn't in yours.
I am a very strong believer in academic freedom both in terms of de lege and de facto.
 
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