Have the Antifa Ultra-Left given up on thought and become completely irrational?

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I am not a big fan of "Autonomous Marxism" which are current Antifa Ultra-Left developed out of but I am currently looking at a translation into French of "autonomist" stuff written in Italy in the 1980s and what strikes me about it is their detailed categorization of Italian society and politics at time. The current bunch however seem totally incapable of anything like that- witness the puerile debates about whether Tommy Robinson and Sargon of Akkad, neither of whom I have any time for, are Fascists or not (they are muscular Liberals so to speak, essentially Whigs, my own Tory Socialism would actually be a lot closer to Fascism, especially certain strands of historical British Fascism than they are).
 
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please tell me how "Tory Socialism" id est counter-revolutionary non-Socialism I normally associate with that scumbag George Orwell is in any way related to Mosleyite Fascism id est an amalgamation of nonProudhonic Syndicalism and Corporatism

Are you aware the latter was speaking of a panEurafrican nation lead by the Germanic race?
 
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please tell me how "Tory Socialism" id est counter-revolutionary non-Socialism I normally associate with that scumbag George Orwell is in any way related to Mosleyite Fascism id est an amalgamation of nonProudhonic Syndicalism and Corporatism

Are you aware the latter was speaking of a panEurafrican nation lead by the Germanic race?
I don't know where you got the idea that George Orwell who I agree was a scumbag was a Tory Socialist outside of possibly the fact that he was British chauvinist, but that a Tory Socialist does not make. Tory Socialists would be people such as Frederick Denison Maurice, R.H. Tawney, Robert Blatchford and Arthur Penty as well as probably the Wyndham Lewis of the Art of Being Ruled. I wasn't so much thinking of Mosley himself but of people such as Derek Holland and Richard Lawson.
 

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I'd called the Ultra-Left nothing more than extreme Consumerists. They think they have the right to maximum pleasure and choice, without any regard for anyone else - particularly not unborn babies. Marx was correct when he said that Anarchism is bourgeois. Of course, Lenin put it rather well in his book title, Left Wing Communism - An Infantile Disorder.
 
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Just use the term cultural Marxist. The fact that the blue haired scum squirm endlessly over it tells you it's a fantastic term.
 
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I'd called the Ultra-Left nothing more than extreme Consumerists. They think they have the right to maximum pleasure and choice, without any regard for anyone else - particularly not unborn babies. Marx was correct when he said that Anarchism is bourgeois. Of course, Lenin put it rather well in his book title, Left Wing Communism - An Infantile Disorder.
Yes they were always like that but back in the 1970s and 80s they were capable of at least attempting to use their brain cells. They appear to have stopped doing that.
 
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I don't know where you got the idea that George Orwell who I agree was a scumbag was a Tory Socialist outside of possibly the fact that he was British chauvinist, but that a Tory Socialist does not make. Tory Socialists would be people such as Frederick Denison Maurice, R.H. Tawney, Robert Blatchford and Arthur Penty as well as probably the Wyndham Lewis of the Art of Being Ruled. I wasn't so much thinking of Mosley himself but of people such as Derek Holland and Richard Lawson.
Wyndham Lewis rescinded his appreciation for Hitler and denigrated him presumably tossing the whole system altogether

i doubt what you are referring to is Fascism and i doubt even more so that some SocDem pamphleteers are about to bring about any change like that made in Europe in the early twentieth century
 
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Wyndham Lewis rescinded his appreciation for Hitler and denigrated him presumably tossing the whole system altogether

i doubt what you are referring to is Fascism and i doubt even more so that some SocDem pamphleteers are about to bring about any change like that made in Europe in the early twentieth century
He rescinded his approval of Hitler because he actually went over to Germany and saw how things were. His book critiquing Hitler along with Ernst Niekisch's book doing the same thing. By the way no one who I mentioned were "Soc Dems" in the contemporary sense.
 
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my own Tory Socialism would actually be a lot closer to Fascism

in another thread you mentioned voting for SDLP so I just assumed that is what you were equating with or are you planning on implementing this through some sort of organisation/aware of such an organisation?
 
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my own Tory Socialism would actually be a lot closer to Fascism

in another thread you mentioned voting for SDLP so I just assumed that is what you were equating with or are you planning on implementing this through some sort of organisation/aware of such an organisation?
Because I see them as the best of a bad bunch.
 
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