Self Moderated Georgian Dublin

[Yitwb]

Despite a plethora of facts relating to the significant historical interest in this house ................................

Home of 1916 hero to make way for €66m apartment plan

An Bord Pleanála has given the green light for developers to demolish the home of the 1916 Rising leader The O'Rahilly at Ballsbridge, Dublin 4 to make way for a €66m, 12-storey luxury apartment scheme.

www.independent.ie

Thank you for this article, if is very interesting. But nonetheless, it has nothing to do with 18th Georgian Dublin.

Thanks

 

[ShumanTheHuman]

Thank you for this article, if is very interesting. But nonetheless, it has nothing to do with 18th Georgian Dublin.

Thanks

This issue reflects to the same philistinism and rapacious greed of developers and planners which led to so much of Georgian Dublin being replaced by brutalist office blocks and architecture of no merit whatsoever and shows that these motives and attitudes are alive and well. .
The Dublin Core Georgian Residents Association didn't take such a pedantic view and objected to this plan

 

[@graceland.com]

For supposed progressive people this government and the last have overseen really bad gombeens style developments.
There seems to be no regard for the location of communist era style apartment block designed to shovel as many units as possible into restricted sites.
You have a row of small cottages on a road then at the end of them the last 6 or so are bought up and replaced with 6 story flat faced apartment blocks with no relationship whatsoever with the existing vernacular architecture.
It's is all about money and greed nothing else, it's not architecture at all its simply a vehicle for financial institutions to enhance their profits.

 

[Volatire]

The severing of the Georgian Mile shows the long running philistinism of the Independent Irish Economic elites.
Ordinary Irish people intuitively understand the aesthetic beauty and importance of this unique architectural heritage

Restoration of Dublin's Georgian Mile is 'what the people want'

The public have until the January 17 to submit their views on the proposed redeveloped of the ESB’s Fitzwilliam Street HQ.

www.thejournal.ie

The half assed reimagined job they are doing is an act of belligerent sophistry. If the Eastern Europeans can restore their medieval and Baroque buildings and public squares after the devastation of WW2 in precise and authentic manner we can undo the damage caused by the pig ignorance and rapacious greed of a clique of suited, "well spoken" scumbags and restore this to it unique glory

Dublin's elegant Georgian architecture has always been hated by the Redneck. It oppresses him. He thinks it is "foreign". Of course, everything beautiful and good looks "foreign" if you are a filthy muck-savage property developer.

This, sadly, is why we lost so much of Dublin.

 

[The Field Marshal]

Old buildings should always be kept once they have passed a certain age. Basically most people would agree, however developers are constantly picking until a scab forms and then they move in .

I was looking at this example of historical archetechture . It was the home of the ORahilly in Herbert park and the developer demolished the buildings around it leaving it totally out of context with its surroundings ...picking at the scab. The house itself is of significant historical interest with a lot of the early dramas regarding the forming of volunteers and preparation for the rising taking place there. Look though at what the developer has done to its surroundings .

The shocking thing (no matter what your thoughts on 1916 etc) is, how easy a developer can ruin an area .There is no protection. This is wrong.

Plans lodged for demolition of The O’Rahilly house

Developers want to replace historic building at Dublin’s Herbert Park with apartments

www.irishtimes.com

So we should preserve the outhouse in which Padraig Pearce took a dump..?
So childish and Hitlerian.

The only basis for preserving any building is architectural merit based on aesthetic value and viable construction .
Just because something is very old or because a significant historical act happened in it is not sufficient.

 

[The Field Marshal]

Dublin's elegant Georgian architecture has always been hated by the Redneck. It oppresses him. He thinks it is "foreign". Of course, everything beautiful and good looks "foreign" if you are a filthy muck-savage property developer.

This, sadly, is why we lost so much of Dublin.

Not exactly.
Dublin was largely destroyed by Dublin Corporations road widening schemes of the 1960s that ensured nobody would invest in the Georgian properties that lined most of the principal access routes into the city centre.
As they were all earmarked for demolition owners simply allowed them decay to the point of no return.
Lower Mount Street is just one example.

Dublin’s City Manager boasted he would demolish all the houses on the route in from Harold’s Cross Bridge to Christ Church.
in order to make a wide highway for his car.
He largely succeeded.

The idiotic hater , Frank Mc Donald, pretends none of this happened.

 

[Volatire]

Not exactly.
Dublin was largely destroyed by Dublin Corporations road widening schemes of the 1960s that ensured nobody would invest in the Georgian properties that lined most of the principal access routes into the city centre.
As they were all earmarked for demolition owners simply allowed them decay to the point of no return.
Lower Mount Street is just one example.

Dublin’s City Manager boasted he would demolish all the houses on the route in from Harold’s Cross Bridge to Christ Church.
in order to make a wide highway for his car.
He largely succeeded.

The idiotic hater , Frank Mc Donald, pretends none of this happened.

Nobody does destruction like the Public Sector once they get an idea in their heads.

“Bus connects” being a latter-day version.

 

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Dublin's elegant Georgian architecture has always been hated by the Redneck. It oppresses him. He thinks it is "foreign". Of course, everything beautiful and good looks "foreign" if you are a filthy muck-savage property developer.

This, sadly, is why we lost so much of Dublin.

I would hope that opinion has moved on from what it once was . I do not think the people/ government agencies hated the architecture ..I think they detested those who initially formed the Georgian society and what they stood for outside of the context of Georgian Dublin .First we had Desmond Guiness , Then Desmond Fitzgerald, Then Patrick Guinness . The society recieve a lot of their funding from the UK .

There should be an across the board register that actually means something of Irish buildings which affords them 100% protection.

 

[The Field Marshal]

I would hope that opinion has moved on from what it once was . I do not think the people/ government agencies hated the architecture ..I think they detested those who initially formed the Georgian society and what they stood for outside of the context of Georgian Dublin .First we had Desmond Guiness , Then Desmond Fitzgerald, Then Patrick Guinness . The society recieve a lot of their funding from the UK .

There should be an across the board register that actually means something of Irish buildings which affords them 100% protection.

An Irish building is officially defined as follows:

Must be built only from Irish rocks, muck and timber using only labour from Irish speaking people who can legally prove their ancestors have lived here for more than 800 years.
(Poster please list your selection of “Irish buildings” to be published in Iris Oifigiul)

 

[ShumanTheHuman]

A reprieve for the O'Rahilly house?

Councillors vote to save O’Rahilly house in Ballsbridge

The 1916 Relatives Alliance has commended councillors who voted to save the family home of The O'Rahilly from the developer’s wrecking ball.

dublingazette.com

 

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A reprieve for the O'Rahilly house?

Councillors vote to save O’Rahilly house in Ballsbridge

The 1916 Relatives Alliance has commended councillors who voted to save the family home of The O'Rahilly from the developer’s wrecking ball.

dublingazette.com

Just a reprieve unfortunately ... No doubt the developer will contest.
I remember when The Relatives alliance won a high court case regarding Moore street presided over by Judge Barret only for the minister to overrule on it at a latter date