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Gardai remove Catholic Children from Offaly

DrPat2

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I understand the requirement to hold family court cases in camera.

However I'd argue that this case is more concerned with trying to get to the truth as to what caused the raid on the house, the removal and detention of the children, rather than whether or not the treatment of the children was merited.

In other words the plaintiff case is more about the legality of the procedures employed by the state, rather than whether or not the treatment of the children merited their forced removal and detention.
Even if that is so, and especially the sensitivity of the matter in terms of the family and the publicity it has engendered, is it not likely that the lawyers for AGS or Tusla or whatever part of the State apparatus was involved will seek an order that the matter is held in camera and/or an order banning publicity, that is unless they decide that they want to disclose something in the public ether?

Given what Ms Kavanagh said in her video, it seems family cases can drag on for a very long time and the parent is up against a formidable State apparatus. Also they could seek to drag it out until the thing is forgotten in public discourse.

There is still a lot we don't know.

Obviously, legal expertise will be required in the matter.
 
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The Field Marshal

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This matter is now receiving international attention and an Garda Siochana do not come out of it well.

 

bells of shandon

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Fair play to the baretts and Phillip
And to all the good people on this fine Forum and Social Media,who made this case go viral internationally.
The Regime rats are like Vampires, they shrink from the light of publicity on their nefarious behaviour.
Never forget we are many they are few ,and we have the weapon of mass dissemination of news worldwide to discredit the Regime and all its complicit puppets.
Use this weapon and often.
 
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Max the Axe

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This is not over till the fat lady sings. The ball is now in the court of the NP and traditional Catholics. Hopefully, they will get disclosure and accountability.
 

gerhard dengler

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This is not over till the fat lady sings. The ball is now in the court of the NP and traditional Catholics. Hopefully, they will get disclosure and accountability.

I would like to think that what happened should be questioned by the majority of people in our country.
 

bells of shandon

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Certainly the NP will gain political capital from their efforts on behalf of Pat Sweeney. and much need exposure to the Electorate.
The NP were active on the ground, facing down the Garda, and were active in organising a GOFUNDME for legal expenses for Pat Sweeney,
Also many will have disseminated the NP videos of the encounters with the Garda.
NP have shown how people action can be organised and financed to right a wrong.
This kidnapping of children by State puppets will have alarmed many families to the dangers of this corrupt State and they have found a real Champion in the NP.
 
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Max the Axe

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I would like to think that what happened should be questioned by the majority of people in our country.
"Be questioned" is too passive. It is the role of politicians to make representations in cases like this. Not only have they failed to do so but the politically active daughter of one joke MEP has come out mocking those who tried to do something.
The regime flip flopped before things could really escalate. The Gardai must be held to account, to see under what authority they acted and what protections were in place to protect the children from being raped or otherwise assaulted and abused by their kidnappers.
The duty of genuine political parties is clear.
With regard to allegedly Christian organisations: they believe in Pentecost, that the Holy Spirit descended on the Apostles and inspired them to go out and save the world from pricks like the O'Gormans and Ming Flanagan's family. The anti Christs in power are playing them like a violin.
 

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Certainly the NP will gain political capital from their efforts on behalf of Pat Sweeney. and much need exposure to the Electorate.
The NP were active on the ground, facing down the Garda, and were active in organising a GOFUNDME for legal expenses for Pat Sweeney,
Also many will have disseminated the NP videos of the encounters with the Garda.
NP have shown how people action can be organised and financed to right a wrong.
This kidnapping of children by State puppets will have alarmed many families to the dangers of this corrupt State and they have found a real Champion in the NP.

The bogus left will just say a Dog Kicker & Doctor Shooter interfered with Gards checking out kid's Welfare.

Tragic affair but it won't grip the Nation the way that it has some Activists.

I'm glad the dispute is heading towards resolution.

There's no doubt that the Subhuman Govt will hijack the Gards for Political Policing.

I wonder who made that phonecall though?