Fine Gael slump as Fianna Fail take lead in latest polls - Greens reborn.

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great to see sinn feins dead body being kicked along the ground and fully deserved :) on course to lose over half dail seats , keep up the good work mary lou prawn
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Not sure if it had a quantifiable effect on the FG results in the Local Elections but it does seem to be showing FG in a bad light. It is almost as if the Fianna Failness is strong in Leo's FG.
I don't think it had any impact either.
But he's got to blame something for the situation other than his own smug smarmy persona. The hospital fiasco could be a lot more relevant.
 
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and so a party with a history of ruining the country, debt, overspending, corruption, losing control of the borders etc etc will get back into power ?

the irish electorate deserve the punishments they will keep on getting
 

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I don't think it had any impact either.
But he's got to blame something for the situation other than his own smug smarmy persona. The hospital fiasco could be a lot more relevant.
Local issues drive Local Elections. FG's vote was hit badly as a result in some constituencies. The problem for FG is that Varadkar is being seen, by FGers, as just a product of the Dublin media and they seem to want to return to the glad-handing gombeenery of Kenny which actually helped local politicians get elected rather than focusing all the attention on Varadkar. Ahern might have been a more "presidential" leader of the US in US political terms but FF had a very good local infrastructure. Varadkar wasn't even the choice of the non-Dail/Seanad FG membership. They wanted Coveney as leader.
 

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and so a party with a history of ruining the country, debt, overspending, corruption, losing control of the borders etc etc will get back into power ?
Looks like it. Though things can change between now and the GE. Basically, the Irish political scene changed from the two and a half party model of FF/FG and Labour to a Big Three model with FF/FG/SF. Now there's a possibility that it is changing into a Big Four model with FF/FG/SF/Greens. The Greens took a lot of the Middle Class vote in some areas where that vote would have gone to FG. There's also the toxicity of Labour in that the Greens are now seen as the None Of The Above choice for people who don't want to vote FF/FG/SF. That's quite deadly for Labour and unless it does something drastic, it may lose most of its TDs. The current propaganda from Labour supporters is that the LEs will translate into about 11 seats in the next Dail. The problem is that the LEs are run in smaller constituencies than the GE and while a few hundred votes may get a councillor elected, a TD requires thousands. What happened in 2016 was that Labour candidates were getting eliminated before any major transfers came into play because FF and FG were keeping their transfers within the sets of FF and FG candidates. The biggest variable in the next GE is the effect of SF's SJWism on its vote (Get woke, lose votes). The 2016 GE was exceptionally good for SF and it could lose about 40% of those seats because of the floating vote shifting again. Some of it may shift to the Greens and to FF.

the irish electorate deserve the punishments they will keep on getting
Always the way.
 
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