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Fianna Fáil insist that only Micheál Martin can be the next Taoiseach in any potential coalition with Fine Gael

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FIANNA Fáil have reportedly told Fine Gael that they will only accept Micheál Martin as Taoiseach in any potential deal between the two parties to form the next government.

Outgoing Fine Gael leader Leo Varadkar is due to meet with Martin on Tuesday to discuss forming a coalition, but it's understood that Fianna Fáil have already taken the idea of a 'rotating Taoiseach' off the table before negotiations have been begun.

Fine Gael have viewed the move as 'very arrogant', and have warned their potential colleagues that such demands will potentially scupper the prospect of meaningful talks between the two this week.

"Fianna Fáil is behaving like it won the election, planning for a government led by Micheál Martin, while demanding that Fine Gael must change its policies. It’s hard to see any basis for meaningful talks this week if Micheál Martin takes a similar approach when he meets the taoiseach," a senior Fine Gael source told the Irish Examiner.

"Fine Gael could only participate on the basis that there is respect for the 450,000 votes that Fine Gael received and the policies they voted for," the source added.
 

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It is well established precedent that the leader of the party with most seats should take the lead in the formation of government and whoever can then secure the support of the majority of TDS will be the choice for Taoiseach.
 

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General election then.
 

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It is well established precedent that the leader of the party with most seats should take the lead in the formation of government and whoever can then secure the support of the majority of TDS will be the choice for Taoiseach.
Sinn Fein then with FF, as FF now has an equal number of TDs.
 

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Sinn Fein then with FF, as FF now has an equal number of TDs.
Indeed.

FF/IMF are making a big deal because they returned 38 TD's, despite one of them being automatically elected because he was, and still is, the ceann comhairle.
Bring on the second election.
 
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Indeed.

FF/IMF are making a big deal because they returned 38 TD's, despite one of them being automatically elected because he was, and still is, the ceann comhairle.
Bring on the second election.
A second election with a full compliment of SF candidates ?

FF/FG would sh1t their pants ( expensive Armani Pants ).
 

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FF secured the highest number of seats and have made it clear, for very good reasons, that they will not coalesce with SF.
But they now hold an equal number of seats as SF.

"It is well established precedent that the leader of the party with most seats should take the lead in the formation of government and whoever can then secure the support of the majority of TDS will be the choice for Taoiseach. "

The leader of the party with the most seats is Mary Lou and Martin.
 

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But they now hold an equal number of seats as SF.

"It is well established precedent that the leader of the party with most seats should take the lead in the formation of government and whoever can then secure the support of the majority of TDS will be the choice for Taoiseach. "

The leader of the party with the most seats is Mary Lou and Martin.
Fine - but they secured more seats in the election. And more important they will not coalesce with SF. If the Shinners want to lead a government they better find support elsewhere.
 

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Fine - but they secured more seats in the election. And more important they will not coalesce with SF. If the Shinners want to lead a government they better find support elsewhere.
They had 37 TD's elected by the people and 1 was returned automatically due to the funny rules that FF brought in a number of years ago.
Spin away....
 

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Fine - but they secured more seats in the election. And more important they will not coalesce with SF. If the Shinners want to lead a government they better find support elsewhere.
Sinn Fein secured more first pref votes, your point?

The Facts are, both FF and SF hold exactly the same number of seats, both according to you have the right to;

" take the lead in the formation of government and whoever can then secure the support of the majority of TDS will be the choice for Taoiseach"


I should also point out that Mary Lou secured more votes to be Taoiseach than Martin did.
 

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Fine - but they secured more seats in the election. And more important they will not coalesce with SF. If the Shinners want to lead a government they better find support elsewhere.
Ff will have to get support from their friends fine Gael to do the losers coalition . It's all got very grubby indeed :)
 
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