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#farright far right narrative used by socialists to demonise their political opponents (myths and legends section)

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I think the term "far right" today encompasses a wide spectrum of views that has at its centre fake news and conspiracies, abuse of free speech, racist rhetoric, politicising of crises, and so on.
So everything essentially can be termed far right if deemed necessary?
 

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Those who object to being called "far right" should then be more wary of labelling others as "establishment shills" "globohomo" etc. One cannot be annoyed at being labelled when one does alot of labelling themselves.
Far right is pretty much a lazy journalism device to stifle any questions of an awkward nature.
 

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So everything essentially can be termed far right if deemed necessary?

roc_ is bitterly opposed to anyone opposed even to aspects in a serious manner economic and cultural Neo-Liberalism whether they be old school Christian Democrats, Salafi Jihadists, actual Communists, Neo-Nazis, the local Legion of Mary, deep ecologists and on it goes....They are all basically the same to him.
 

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Those who object to being called "far right" should then be more wary of labelling others as "establishment shills" "globohomo" etc. One cannot be annoyed at being labelled when one does alot of labelling themselves.
It's impossible to argue with a cult.

I think on here what we have is a de facto cargo cult (in the sense of an intellectual cargo cult similar to other nativistic cults that involved an interweaving of old ideas with borrowed notions and that promised a restoration or vindication of native culture etc.)

The "cargo" in this case appearing to be a mish-mash of 1950's like Irish society, with values from that era, the demise of capitalism, the EU, etc. And the prophets of this cult like Trump or Jones or many others promising their acolytes that after the coming collapse of the old order, the "deep state" and the "globalists", the coming "apocalypse", that the world will then once again make sense to them.

Keep in mind that every single cult must generate an opposition. They not only recruit and proselytize, they exclude. They generate the opposition because the state of feeling and the hostility has value for them.

So that's why all the rhetoric about "establishment shills", or "globohomo" or "cultural Marxists", or "the main stream media", or "the deep state", or "the regime" or for that matter Jews, gays, minorities, multiculturalism, and everything else are so important. These labels generate a feeling as well as provide a bond between them all.

And what you're dealing with is essentially a kind of magical thinking - always prophesying a revolution, the collapse of the EU, of global commerce, of capitalism, of the media, always making all sorts of assumptions, for instance that gays and Jews create elitist "globohomo" dictats whose intent is to subjugate them and make them answerable to another set of values, that they must heroically fight against as "patriots" etc.

That's apart from the dishonest arguments, made up facts, arguments in bad faith, false attributions that certain posters deploy without fail when they have no argument like SwordofCatheroine.

So I gave up trying to reason with people on here some time ago. I just try to paint their world starkly, juxtapose it with the real world, so others see their world for what it is.
 
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It's impossible to argue with a cult.

I think on here what we have is a de facto cargo cult (in the sense of an intellectual cargo cult similar to other nativistic cults that involved an interweaving of old ideas with borrowed notions and that promised a restoration or vindication of native culture etc.)

The "cargo" in this case appearing to be a mish-mash of 1950's like Irish society, with values from that era, the demise of capitalism, the EU, etc.

And the prophets of this cult like Trump or Jones or many others promising their acolytes that after the coming collapse of the old order, the "deep state" and the "globalists", the coming "apocalypse", that the world will then once again make sense to them.

Keep in mind that every single cult must generate an opposition. They not only recruit and proselytize, they exclude. They generate the opposition because the state of feeling and the hostility has value for them.

So that's why all the rhetoric about "establishment shills", or "globohomo" or "cultural Marxists", or "the main stream media", or "the deep state", or "the regime" or for that matter Jews, gays, minorities, multiculturalism, and everything else are so important. These labels generate a feeling as well as provide a bond between them all.

And what you're dealing with is essentially a kind of magical thinking - always prophesying a revolution, the collapse of the EU, of global commerce, of capitalism, of the media, always making all sorts of assumptions, for instance that gays and Jews create elitist "globohomo" dictats whose intent is to subjugate them and make them answerable to another set of values, that they must heroically fight against as "patriots" etc.

That's apart from the dishonest arguments, made up facts, arguments in bad faith, false attributions that certain posters deploy without fail when they have no argument like SwordofCatheroine.

So I gave up trying to reason with people on here some time ago. I just try to paint their world starkly so others see it for what it is.
Interesting insight you have there.
you seem to have all the answers of the universe.
Are you normally this humble? 😂
 

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roc-said

‘It's impossible to argue with a cult.

I think on here what we have is a de facto cargo cult (in the sense of an intellectual cargo cult similar to other nativistic cults that involved an interweaving of old ideas with borrowed notions and that promised a restoration or vindication of native culture etc.)”


If I wanted to sum you up...your own statement above does it perfectly.👍😂
 

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roc-said

‘It's impossible to argue with a cult.

I think on here what we have is a de facto cargo cult (in the sense of an intellectual cargo cult similar to other nativistic cults that involved an interweaving of old ideas with borrowed notions and that promised a restoration or vindication of native culture etc.)”


If I wanted to sum you up...your own statement above does it perfectly.👍😂
Empires don't end according to roc, we are not in the midst of a ecological catastrophe - maybe he's a Climate Change denier :unsure:, unsustainable population growth isn't happening and economic depressions only occur because cranks, misfits and losers cannot understand everything is as it should be in the best of all possible worlds. Oh, and everyone who disagrees with him is a Trump Pumper.
Now take your soma and don't be worrying your little head
 

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It's impossible to argue with a cult.

I think on here what we have is a de facto cargo cult (in the sense of an intellectual cargo cult similar to other nativistic cults that involved an interweaving of old ideas with borrowed notions and that promised a restoration or vindication of native culture etc.)

The "cargo" in this case appearing to be a mish-mash of 1950's like Irish society, with values from that era, the demise of capitalism, the EU, etc. And the prophets of this cult like Trump or Jones or many others promising their acolytes that after the coming collapse of the old order, the "deep state" and the "globalists", the coming "apocalypse", that the world will then once again make sense to them.

Keep in mind that every single cult must generate an opposition. They not only recruit and proselytize, they exclude. They generate the opposition because the state of feeling and the hostility has value for them.

So that's why all the rhetoric about "establishment shills", or "globohomo" or "cultural Marxists", or "the main stream media", or "the deep state", or "the regime" or for that matter Jews, gays, minorities, multiculturalism, and everything else are so important. These labels generate a feeling as well as provide a bond between them all.

And what you're dealing with is essentially a kind of magical thinking - always prophesying a revolution, the collapse of the EU, of global commerce, of capitalism, of the media, always making all sorts of assumptions, for instance that gays and Jews create elitist "globohomo" dictats whose intent is to subjugate them and make them answerable to another set of values, that they must heroically fight against as "patriots" etc.

That's apart from the dishonest arguments, made up facts, arguments in bad faith, false attributions that certain posters deploy without fail when they have no argument like SwordofCatheroine.

So I gave up trying to reason with people on here some time ago. I just try to paint their world starkly, juxtapose it with the real world, so others see their world for what it is.

What I take from this is that you are saying indigenous people of Ireland are wrong in wishing to preserve our culture and we shouldn't unite together, putting personal differences aside in order to try for a better future. And if it's done under the banner of patriotism it must be a cult.

Your also claiming things like 'Globohomo' and ' Cultural Marxism ' are not real. But rather magical imaginings of a patriotism based cult.
Yet there are published pictures of Gerry Adams with Panti Bliss.

You have to be either the worst shill in the world with a feeble attempt at the inversion of ideologies and pathetic attempts of divide & conquer.
OR the biggest fruitcake in the world.

One or the other.
 

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Another far left conspiracy theorist. This time a University lecturer who gets airtime on RTE for COVID-19 issues And general commentary.
Far right is now the got to phrase to dismiss and ostracise anyone or group who disagree with progressive ideology no matter how warped , ridiculous, unwarranted or irrelevant it is.
And not a single media outlet have been curious enough to ask what it means in an Irish context.
 
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