Ernst Junger: National Socialism, National Bolshevism and The New Worker

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A very interesting article on one of the main Nationaist thinkers who influenced the National Bolshevik and National Socialist movements. Though I'm not sure he ever used these terms to describe himself, he certainly did have a strong influence on them. As a German WW1 war hero who favoured a hard Spartan or Prussian "front socialism," he rejected the Communist Party for being too soft, Liberal and consumerist and too interested in "individual freedom." He said he hated democracy like the plague. But he equally rejected Hitler's racialism. He turned down several offers from the National Socialist Party to take a seat in the Reichstag. He served in the Wermacht in France during WW2. He had a great influence on the philosopher Martin Heidegger, and carried on a philosophical correspondence with Heidegger from the end of WW2 until Heidegger's death in the 1970s. Junger himself died in 1998.

The Worker State: Ernst Junger, National Bolshevism, And The New Worker
 

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He was the most decorated German Soldier of WWI- that should never be forgotten. His said about "Marxism that is was useful but corrosive"(which I think has a lot of truth but we would have to break this down further)- it was their reductionism which was his basic problem with the KPD. His basic problem with the NSADP was their one minute indulging in trashy self pity and the next minute indulging that we are over-men nonsense.
 

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Mentioning Heidegger, he honestly seems dumb to me. He joined the party, thinking they were going to return Europe to some pre-modern world of "Dwelling" or some other malarkey, when it was always obvious that Hitler was a force of modernity.

Academics and philosophers are caught up behind their desks and constantly criticise. They make a living out of attack and defence, not in actual social utopia. That is the field of real men, like Hitler. I distinguish between theorising and what I call "over-theorising". Once you have an idea- a plan- of social utopia- fire it; don't question it. The rest is the long walk of praxis. Hitler managed both of these things, unlike Junger and Heidegger, who remained in a state of "over-theory".
Hitler was a bad bastard intent on imposing a warped totalitarian ideology that subjugated groups deemed inferior to servitude.
Nor was Hitler even a real man, treating his women like dirt.

Why do you admire such a bum?
 

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Hmm.
This newbie poster Biddycampbell can only grunt disagreement but strangely for an alleged academic is completely unable to argue a position.
:uzi::rolleyes:
 

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Lewis supported Hitler, because he represented a genuine distancing from the classism of English conservatism. Hitler's system was one of class, sure; but not of classism. That is why I would support a similar politician.
Lewis supported Hitler until he actually went to Germany and investigated the situation there which made him turn against him. His second book on Hitler is really brilliant.
 

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I answered you, in the post which Catherine has quoted.
No you did not.
In addition this forum operates on a basis of interaction where posters interact on a conscious basis.

You can not run away pretending your answer to one poster suffices as an answer to another.
That is the way of the coward .

You have failed to demonstrate why Hitler was not a totalitarian murdering bollox who ill treated his women and wished to enslave large groups of people whom he deemed subhuman.

Indeed you seem to indicate a degree of sympathy for that bastards worldview.
 

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Then I will repeat myself; German Nationalism represented a genuine break from the stuffy English gentility which plagued the British Isles. Hitler's system was class-based, but not classist, unlike the trashcan which was and is English Conservatism of "the centre". How did he treat women? Sorry, I didn't realise we were Feminists here; a group I am very wary of, since concerning myself with the biography of Ms. Woolf, who appears to have been the most English of characters, and I mean that in a very, very, bad way. As to race; yes, Hitler was a racist. I haven't much interest in that part of his agenda, though. He didn't get it from nowhere, though. There had been theories of racial utopia around for decades, beforehand.
German nationalism of the socialist type was inhuman poisonous and filled with hatred of any privileged class or human excellence.
This hatred filled the Nazis and the German communists of the time and continues to feed Irish republican ideology as well.
It’s origins lie in the French Revolution and was developed practically by the USA who have been its primary advocate.

The denial of human excellence and the denial of the supreme value of the individual human person all now lie at the root of Western political and social malaise crumbling under the onslaught of resurgent Islam and media technology wielded by unaccountable globalists.
 

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German nationalism of the socialist type was inhuman poisonous and filled with hatred of any privileged class or human excellence.
This hatred filled the Nazis and the German communists of the time and continues to feed Irish republican ideology as well.
It’s origins lie in the French Revolution and was developed practically by the USA who have been its primary advocate.

The denial of human excellence and the denial of the supreme value of the individual human person all now lie at the root of Western political and social malaise crumbling under the onslaught of resurgent Islam and media technology wielded by unaccountable globalists.

I don't think I'd agree that National Socialists resented excellence. They resented criminal banksters and conmen robbing the people with a stroke of a pen - and then having the police to back them up and protect their ill gotten gains for them.

 
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