Do you buy official line on American Civil War?

Zozimus

PI Member
Joined
Dec 4, 2017
Messages
182
Likes
78
I have always thought that the American civil war was about the Norths economic interests imposing their will by force on the wealthier South who wished to secede from the union.
Nice try :ROFLMAO:

"By 1860, 90 percent of the nation's manufacturing output came from northern states. The North produced 17 times more cotton and woolen textiles than the South, 30 times more leather goods, 20 times more pig iron, and 32 times more firearms. The North produced 3,200 firearms to every 100 produced in the South. Only about 40 percent of the Northern population was still engaged in agriculture by 1860, as compared to 84 percent of the South.

Even in the agricultural sector, Northern farmers were out-producing their southern counterparts in several important areas, as Southern agriculture remained labor intensive while northern agriculture became increasingly mechanized. By 1860, the free states had nearly twice the value of farm machinery per acre and per farm worker as did the slave states, leading to increased productivity. As a result, in 1860, the Northern states produced half of the nation's corn, four-fifths of its wheat, and seven-eighths of its oats
."

Industry and Economy during the Civil War

National Park Service

 

The Field Marshal

PI Member
Joined
Oct 2, 2018
Messages
4,488
Likes
3,808
Nice try :ROFLMAO:

"By 1860, 90 percent of the nation's manufacturing output came from northern states. The North produced 17 times more cotton and woolen textiles than the South, 30 times more leather goods, 20 times more pig iron, and 32 times more firearms. The North produced 3,200 firearms to every 100 produced in the South. Only about 40 percent of the Northern population was still engaged in agriculture by 1860, as compared to 84 percent of the South.

Even in the agricultural sector, Northern farmers were out-producing their southern counterparts in several important areas, as Southern agriculture remained labor intensive while northern agriculture became increasingly mechanized. By 1860, the free states had nearly twice the value of farm machinery per acre and per farm worker as did the slave states, leading to increased productivity. As a result, in 1860, the Northern states produced half of the nation's corn, four-fifths of its wheat, and seven-eighths of its oats
."

Industry and Economy during the Civil War
National Park Service

Why would I trust anything produced by a victorious govt that found it necessary to slaughter 600,000 plus of its citizens to prove a point.?
 

Zozimus

PI Member
Joined
Dec 4, 2017
Messages
182
Likes
78
Why would I trust anything produced by a victorious govt that found it necessary to slaughter 600,000 plus of its citizens to prove a point.?
Dead right! Just stick with the facts that you make up yourself. 🙄

See ya around...
 

The Field Marshal

PI Member
Joined
Oct 2, 2018
Messages
4,488
Likes
3,808
Dead right! Just stick with the facts that you make up yourself. 🙄

See ya around...
I don't really care one way or the other.
The American Civil war was really one band of backward savages fighting another.

The love of slaughter, violence and bloodshed still characterises vast swathes of American society to this day..
 

valamhic

PI Member
Joined
Jan 25, 2019
Messages
2,749
Likes
1,138
I have always thought that the American civil war was about the Norths economic interests imposing their will by force on the wealthier South who wished to secede from the union.
The issue of slavery was an excuse to give a moral cloak to the Norths ambitions.
The Souths economy depended on slavery far more than the norths so grubby politicians like Lincoln used the issue for political purposes.

The issue of emancipation from slavery could easily have been dealt with without resorting to civil war and its an historical lie to present that war as evil southerners wanting to keep slaves and the north wanting to free them.

The issue was far wider and more complex than that.

Let Irish readers therefore beware of the enormous dangers presented by EU federalism.
It was federalism , not slavery, that actually caused the American civil war
Look at Britains attempt to break away, see how its thwarted. Federations are dangerous and difficult to get out of
 
D

Deleted member 163

Non Registered Member
GUEST
I have always thought that the American civil war was about the Norths economic interests imposing their will by force on the wealthier South who wished to secede from the union.
The issue of slavery was an excuse to give a moral cloak to the Norths ambitions.
The Souths economy depended on slavery far more than the norths so grubby politicians like Lincoln used the issue for political purposes.

The issue of emancipation from slavery could easily have been dealt with without resorting to civil war and its an historical lie to present that war as evil southerners wanting to keep slaves and the north wanting to free them.

The issue was far wider and more complex than that.

Let Irish readers therefore beware of the enormous dangers presented by EU federalism.
It was federalism , not slavery, that actually caused the American civil war
Many slave owners did not fight at all. The Law in the South allowed a man to evade military duty if he held 20 or more slaves. The war was about money and taxes. The Southern States wished to secede and be done with Washington DC
 

Tadhg Ó Raghallaigh

Donator
PI Member
Joined
Sep 30, 2017
Messages
6,468
Likes
6,714
Location
Over the hills and far away
Many slave owners did not fight at all. The Law in the South allowed a man to evade military duty if he held 20 or more slaves.
But many slavers did fight, leaving their wives to hold the fort. One of the reasons the Confederate Congress accomplished much less that it could've was that so many legislators enlisted to fight for Dixie. Draft-dodging was far more widespread in the North.
 
D

Deleted member 163

Non Registered Member
GUEST
But many slavers did fight, leaving their wives to hold the fort. One of the reasons the Confederate Congress accomplished much less that it could've was that so many legislators enlisted to fight for Dixie. Draft-dodging was far more widespread in the North.
Of course, in the North there was no reason at all to foolishly get yourself killed, as the unbrainwashed Irish acted upon with the ensuing riots. The brainwashed americans though got themselves killed in large numbers.
 

Myles O'Reilly

Top Bloke
Donator
PI Member
Joined
Feb 3, 2017
Messages
8,630
Likes
8,764
Location
Ireland
Why would I trust anything produced by a victorious govt that found it necessary to slaughter 600,000 plus of its citizens to prove a point.?
The Govt wanted to do no such thing. The south started the war despite every exasperated effort by people like Lincoln to avoid it.

The traitors brought it upon themselves.
 
Top Bottom