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I'm still waiting for you to tell us what your objection to Pope Francis is.
The objection to what you call “pope” Francis is that as I said dozens of times before , he is not a valid pope now due to formal heresy and its extremely doubtful if he ever was even elected a pope becuase of the massive screw up perpetrated by the actual pope Benedict xvi in his quasi half resignation .
A twin papacy Catholic Church is a direct repudiation of Christ .
Two living men men using the title “ pope” is a sign that something somewhere is dreadfully WRONG.

All the visible manifestations of something dreadfully wrong in the catholic world are seeping out with the diabolical formally heretical statements and writings of alleged “pope” no two who has seized control of the Vatican .

The upshot of all this is that Francis 1st has NOT succeeded to the Chair of St Peter and no Catholic is obliged to listen to him.

That prerogative remains with Pope Benedict xvi.
 
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Sure it keeps the site god botherers busy, I suppose........ :cool:
 

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I reject that assertion that either the current pontiff Benedict xvi or JP 2 ever stated that Christ was not necessary for salvation.
What they said was that other faiths contained elements of truth and that salvation might be possible outside the Catholic Church through baptism of desire.

John Paul II, Redemptor Hominis (#13), March 4, 1979:

“We are dealing with each man, for each one is included in the mystery of the Redemption and with each one Christ has united Himself forever through this mystery.

John Paul II, Redemptoris Missio (#4), Dec. 7, 1990:

“The Redemption event brings salvation to all, for each one is included in the mystery of the Redemption and with each one Christ has united himself forever through this mystery.‟


So, not only is Pope John Paul II denying that the Church and the Holy Sacraments are necessary for salvation - but he is also denying that hell exists. He is also denying that free will exists, since if Christ has united Himself with everyone, then we have no choice in the matter. We are all going to heaven - no matter what sins we commit.
 
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John Paul II, Redemptor Hominis (#13), March 4, 1979:

“We are dealing with each man, for each one is included in the mystery of the Redemption and with each one Christ has united Himself forever through this mystery.

John Paul II, Redemptoris Missio (#4), Dec. 7, 1990:

“The Redemption event brings salvation to all, for each one is included in the mystery of the Redemption and with each one Christ has united himself forever through this mystery.‟


So, not only is Pope John Paul II denying that the Church and the Holy Sacraments are necessary for salvation - but he is also denying that hell exists. He is also denying that free will exists, since if Christ has united Himself with everyone, then we have no choice in the matter. We are all going to heaven - no matter what sins we commit.
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Not only do you fail to show nuanced understanding and make distinctions but now you take papal statements wildly out of any context.

Bottom line here.

Francis 1st has manifestly not succeeded to the Chair of St. Peter.

That chair is either now vacant or occupied by the still living Pope Benedict xvi.
 
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Thanks for that.
All Catholics can now breathe again.
You are welcome.

Sadly you seem to believe that a working understanding of theology requires biblical expertise.

Odd then, is it not, just how all those early Catholics managed their theology fine for centuries before the Bible was ever even compiled.?
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Neither of them like antipope francis sought to prevent the conversion of people to the catholic religion.
Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI have tried to prevent the conversion of Jews to the Catholic faith.

Benedict affirms, “the missionary mandate is universal – with one exception: a mission to the Jews was not foreseen and not necessary because they alone, among all peoples, knew the ‘unknown God’.”



Go to 19:20 where John Paul II bowed his head to pray for the Coming of the Messiah by Jews.

 

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You are welcome.
Sadly you seem to believe that a working understanding of theology requires biblical expertise.
Funny then how all those early Catholics managed their theology just fine for centuries before the Bible was ever even compiled.
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No they didn't. The early Church was riven by sects and error.
It was riven again when the Bible was made widely available and each man gave it his own interpretation.
 

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You are welcome.

Sadly you seem to believe that a working understanding of theology requires biblical expertise.

Funny then is it not how all those early Catholics managed their theology just fine for centuries before the Bible was ever even compiled.?
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It did not take long for the Gospels to be written at all and they also had the Old Testament Scriptures.
 

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Not only do you fail to show nuanced understanding and make distinctions but now you take papal statements wildly out of any context.

Bottom line here.

Francis 1st has manifestly not succeeded to the Chair of St. Peter.

That chair is either now vacant or occupied by the still living Pope Benedict xvi.

At least we're agreed that Pope Francis hasn't committed any heresies that weren't already committed by Pope John Paul and Pope Benedict.
 

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No they didn't. The early Church was riven by sects and error.
It was riven again when the Bible was made widely available and each man gave it his own interpretation.
Are you saying that it was access to the Bible which was the cause of the Protestant Reformation?
 

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Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI have tried to prevent the conversion of Jews to the Catholic faith.

Benedict affirms, “the missionary mandate is universal – with one exception: a mission to the Jews was not foreseen and not necessary because they alone, among all peoples, knew the ‘unknown God’.”



Go to 19:20 where John Paul II bowed his head to pray for the Coming of the Messiah by Jews.

Please stop your display of ignorance.
Picking bits and pieces from websites that twist and lie isn't helping anybody.
 
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