Denmark set to ban the burka and niqab.

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Why cannot people like Toland and Emily Davision over on Politics.ie see through L'Chaim? Or do you think it is a case that they do but don't want to call a spade a spade ? And if that is the case than why do they continue to slander Rashers as some actual almost murderous anti-Semite (Rashers isn't anti-Semitic by my definition of the word).

Both of them are stupid people. They know how to speak English to a level that gives the impression they have some intelligence - but really they don't.
 
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Your every single post is laced with ignorance, misinformation, and innuendo. Towards a single purpose. Takfir is a concept in Islamist discourse as a whole, Sunni and Shia - denoting excommunication, as one Muslim declaring another Muslim as a non-believer. The term Takfiris has recently been applied to ISIS because Zarqawi massively expanded the range of behavior that could make Muslims infidels. (To do this he focused on "the sin", as being the measure of apostasy. Remind you of someone, Ratio?) This extremist denouncing of other Muslims and pronouncing their punishment, usually beheading, is the practive of 'Takfir'. It is an extremely fringe outlook among both Sunni and Shia. And a "hijab" is any covering that secludes women from the view of men in public. The burka is a hijab or covering that stems from Arabic culture, and not Persian culture. That's all. There are no dogmatic differences between the large groupings of Sunnis and Shi’a. They have the same core beliefs. The only difference is essentially political - Sunnis believe that no person after Muhammad is infallible, while the Shias believe in the infallibility of the twelve Imams who are descendants from the family of prophet Muhammad. Within both groups there are nearly infinite sub-groupings and sects. Certainly not all Muslims, both Sunni and Shia, are "Islamist" (believing Islam has something to say beyond the personal sphere, and not being content with Islam being restricted strictly to private life). And within Islamism to scratch the surface of the current Sunni extremism alone, you might have Salafis, Jihadis, Al-Qaeda and Takfiri. There're not all one and the same. For example, not all Islamists are Salafis. And Jihadis are Salafis but not all Salafis are Jihadis. Did you know for example that normally, Salafism prioritises personal purification and religious observance, and they believe anything that thwarts those goals—such as causing war or unrest that would disrupt lives and prayer and scholarship is forbidden? Listen, the point is your every post is dedicated to demonising one side, and idealising and whitewashing the other side. By descending on tiny fringe cases and pathological malcontents and radicals who merely serve to rationalise your hatred of the west, western capitalism, Israel, and "sinful Jews" etc, etc, who you conveniently blame for all of the world's ills, you perpetuate lies. Your philosophy that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" serves nothing except these lies.These tiny fringe dubious cases you descend upon (and usually distort with it) demonstrates nothing except the lengths you will go to to perpetuate your ideologically driven narrative to posit "the enemy". Your contributions bring nothing to the table anymore. They only serve to embolden a grouping of the usual suspects you have coalesced with on here. Actually I perceive a kind of "sinful" concupiscence in your political association with these assortment of aggrieved souls you have found on here. But there is zero interest for me, so please stop badgering me, both you and Maxflinn, to "engage". There is nothing worthwhile to "engage" with on here. Thanks.
May I ask why do any of us in the west need to know any of this medieval rag-head shite?
 

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This is the main problem have with Democracy- there are far to many people in this world who are easily manipulated.

The reality is that democracy can only work in the kind of context that the Greeks developed it, i.e. in small city states where everyone knows each other and you stand to loose something if you do or say the wrong thing - maybe your life. And even then, it was only the property owning men who were allowed to vote. The idea of millions of people who don't know each other voting for people they don't know in not democracy - it's absolute nonsense.
 

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Isn't it strange how our Arch-Zionists now jump to the defense of the Arch-Sunnis? I think our sympathy with the Shia is well placed.
Exactly! Everything the likes of roc_, Anglophile and Setantawatchl say on fora is designed to bolster the Israeli position, and of course with the mighty Shia Hezbollah and the Shia Iranians being the arch enemy of the Saudi-inspired Wahhabi terrorists of this world - the likes of whom Israel use as regime change proxies - and the arch enemies of Israel, they must try to demonize Shias.

It's so ridiculously transparent. I can't imagine they fool anyone bar the kind of sheep that populate P.ie. Their propaganda won't gain any traction here and roc_ knows it, hence his reluctance to post here.
 

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Exactly! Everything the likes of roc_, Anglophile and Setantawatchl say on fora is designed to bolster the Israeli position, and of course with the mighty Shia Hezbollah and the Shia Iranians being the arch enemy of the Saudi-inspired Wahhabi terrorists of this world - the likes of whom Israel use as regime change proxies - and the arch enemies of Israel, they must try to demonize Shias.

It's so ridiculously transparent. I can't imagine they fool anyone bar the kind of sheep that populate P.ie. Their propaganda won't gain any traction here and roc_ knows it, hence his reluctance to post here.

Yes, it must be very difficult for them on a forum where the mods won't just ban anyone who demolishes their propaganda with facts.
 

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Yes, it must be very difficult for them on a forum where the mods won't just ban anyone who demolishes their propaganda with facts.
Again, spot on.

I regularly did so on P.ie - as did you of course - and we're both banned.....

I spent hours one day on there looking back through old threads highlighting Israel's crimes and virtually none of those supporting these crimes on these threads had been banned, yet I would say upwards of 50% of those supporting the Palestinians had been permanently banned.

roc_ and the rest know they'll not be able to engineer a similar situation here so they stay in their safe zone.
 
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Exactly! Everything the likes of roc_, Anglophile and Setantawatchl say on fora is designed to bolster the Israeli position, and of course with the mighty Shia Hezbollah and the Shia Iranians being the arch enemy of the Saudi-inspired Wahhabi terrorists of this world - the likes of whom Israel use as regime change proxies - and the arch enemies of Israel, they must try to demonize Shias.

It's so ridiculously transparent. I can't imagine they fool anyone bar the kind of sheep that populate P.ie. Their propaganda won't gain any traction here and roc_ knows it, hence his reluctance to post here.
 
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this is a thread about women having to cover up and you make it about jews

not so long ago in this country women had to cover up, women didn't go out without a scarf
there was cleansing ceremony after a woman had a baby, a woman had to be churched
whether it's shia or sunni it's a retrograde step to have women dress to appease a religious dogma
we are equal ffs
 
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this is a thread about women having to cover up and you make it about jews

not so long ago in this country women had to cover up, women didn't go out without a scarf
there was cleansing ceremony after a woman had a baby, a woman had to be churched
whether it's shia or sunni it's a retrograde step to have women dress to appease a religious dogma
we are equal ffs
But actually Believing Jewesses wear head coverings as well. In fact as you well know that a lot of Orthodox Jewry has the woman after she becomes married shave off their hair and outside of the house wear a wigs, and usually a hat or hair covering over that, which though I know Nuns traditionally kept their hair cropped I went it is very cruel on most women in the world because as a woman your hair is extremely important to you. I think our hair is sexual in a way that man's isn't.
 
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this is a thread about women having to cover up and you make it about jews

not so long ago in this country women had to cover up, women didn't go out without a scarf
there was cleansing ceremony after a woman had a baby, a woman had to be churched
whether it's shia or sunni it's a retrograde step to have women dress to appease a religious dogma
we are equal ffs
roc_ who believes little old me is an anti-Semite ideologue made it about Jews. His new found love for Saudi Arabia and particular hatred of the Shia is about that.
 
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The term Takfiris has recently been applied to ISIS because Zarqawi massively expanded the range of behavior that could make Muslims infidels. (To do this he focused on "the sin", as being the measure of apostasy. Remind you of someone, Ratio?)

Within both groups there are nearly infinite sub-groupings and sects. Certainly not all Muslims, both Sunni and Shia, are "Islamist" (believing Islam has something to say beyond the personal sphere, and not being content with Islam being restricted strictly to private life). And within Islamism to scratch the surface of the current Sunni extremism alone, you might have Salafis, Jihadis, Al-Qaeda and Takfiri. There're not all one and the same. For example, not all Islamists are Salafis. And Jihadis are Salafis but not all Salafis are Jihadis..
No it doesn't, who do you think it should remind me of?

No Believing Muslim is content with Islam being restricted to private life. Though the Lutheran doctrine of the "Two Kingdoms" comes dangerously to it, not just Catholics but Protestants of the Magisterial Reformation and the Eastern Orthodox also reject this notion of Religion being a strictly private matter. Someone tried to convince me to join a "Continuing Anglican" Church (they are basically the Anglican version of the SSPX) and the reason I didn't follow them into it was principally because I argued that by separating from the Church of England they were undermining her Establishment and so aiding those who would make Religion a strictly private matter. The concept of the Separation of Church and State has always been one utterly alien to me. Now if I was wielding the Sword of Secular Authority on behalf of King Jesus would it fall on the Jews? Not as such, just as it would fall on Muslims as such, but it definitely fall on Chabad, the Muslim Brotherhood and peddlers of hate and fear such as your Caroline Glick.

This of course is in the realm of the ideal because at the moment the Bishops are so corrupt and so eager to follow after adulterously after the elements of Irish society represented by the "The Irish Times".
 
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