David Quinn: We cannot have a debate about immigration as long as those who ask questions are denounced as racist

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I think that is perfectly fine.
If there are worker shortages identified in a particular area then introduce fixed term working visas allowing work only in the activity specified for a specified length of time with no right to access social services, Government services, with an obligation for them to self-fund health insurance and so on and above all with no automatic route to permanent residency.
The same kind of deal that Europeans get when they work in Saudi Arabia for instance.
Yeah bit in effect once they are here - they are here

They wont be going Home anytime soon

Its just a way for the Capitalist Class to get even cheaper labour

- while driving up the demand on basic services...
 

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Is it just me or are the Sunday papers beginning to, .... slowly... Realise that the vast majority of of the Irish citizens hate what our EU puppet regime are doing to our country with our wages and without our consent.. Aren't journalists supposed to be eagle eyed and observant.. Or something..

The papers here especially the SI are regime rags, as a result they are largely unreadable and the unsold pile grows weekly outside my local shop. This must be coming to somebody's attention...

I canceled our Sunday papers a couple of years ago due to my objection to paying good money for Irish state propaganda. Any journalists worthy of the name have been dismissed or sidelined years ago - I wouldn't read 'prize winning ' wanker Barry Egan' for free.

The odd time I flick through the paper in my local I am genuinely shocked at the content in them. Crude, biased and poor quality from the front page to the end..

Keep boycotting them.. All they understand is cash..
Barry Egan ha ha, no surprise to anyone who's read his fawning over celebrities, the right sort to be winning prizes for tugging.

 

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Worker shortages are how wages increase.
If you keep topping up the amount of workers, then wages stagnate.

This is how, in America, companies can still hire people on $8 an hour - a wage you cannot adequately live on.
If the flood of immigrants had been stopped earlier, these jobs would now be at $15 an hour.
And you wouldn't have people screaming for 'a living wage'.

Basic supply & demand.
 

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I think that is perfectly fine.
If there are worker shortages identified in a particular area then introduce fixed term working visas allowing work only in the activity specified for a specified length of time with no right to access social services, Government services, with an obligation for them to self-fund health insurance and so on and above all with no automatic route to permanent residency.
The same kind of deal that Europeans get when they work in Saudi Arabia for instance.
The EU has a labour pool of 500 million people, some of the EU countries have high unemployment rates, like Spain, why do we need to go outside the EU? And as it was pointed out once these people are in, they are here for good.
 

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The EU has a labour pool of 500 million people, some of the EU countries have high unemployment rates, like Spain, why do we need to go outside the EU? And as it was pointed out once these people are in, they are here for good.
I've travelled in dozens of non-EU countries and lived for work reasons in 5.

Every time I entered those countries for work my entry and residence visas had to be completely legitimate - never happened to me but several friends were put back on the planes because of minor errors on their visas - an unclear signature or date or whatever. To be clear they had passports and all the correct visas and the means to support themselves just a date or signature was unclear. The counties I lived in were Islamic or Islamic influenced so big signs all over the airports - no alcohol, pork, porn or crucifixes or bibles allowed. Obey our laws - not a discussion. They may have been poor countries but they had control over who entered their countries - we have no border controls and it's destroying Ireland - I do not know a single person who supports this or professes to admire the Irish regime - how did we get here? So quickly ?

In the search for ever lower wages for working people our weak ineffectual gombeen EU puppets have allowed in hundreds of thousands of people who have no business being here and who do not have the means to support themselves - Eastern European workers using FIS, social housing and free healthcare to undermine Irish workers... first for entry level jobs - now all jobs. It's now a complete chaotic disaster...the spoofers and chancers here know it and are taking full-advantage. Three generation migration from Eastern Europe , huge 70 person applications for family re-union from Nigerian phoney asylum seekers, Roma clans arriving in large numbers to be part of the handout bonanza. This is what I am seeing in the area I work in and used to live in - it's not something I read on the Internet. The 'response' from Varadkar - Coveny - Flanagan et al is to put passports in corn-flake packets and clumsily try to prevent a discussion.

For about ten or fifteen years Ireland's small middle-class and even smaller political elite could ignore the open borders - even benefit from them - what with the cheap nannies and home helps and nicely servile waiting staff. The social contract destroying problems they created were confined to poorer areas of Irish cities and towns or low quality employment entry level employment. As the numbers wanting to be part of Ireland's handout boom surge towards a million the problems caused now affect all but the wealthiest - two wages cannot buy a basic home - a million on hospital waiting lists, couples struggle to have a single child - half the housing waiting lists in some local authority areas are illegal immigrants... FFS!. Jobs that were once well paid and largely protected by Irish middle class privilege like accountancy, administration positions, HR even airline pilots are now competing with 'me from East Europe me work real cheap' arrivals.

When those lumbering fossils writing for the Irish Regime print media begin to blink and look around .. you know the things are beginning to stir..
 

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Worker shortages are how wages increase.
If you keep topping up the amount of workers, then wages stagnate.

This is how, in America, companies can still hire people on $8 an hour - a wage you cannot adequately live on.
If the flood of immigrants had been stopped earlier, these jobs would now be at $15 an hour.
And you wouldn't have people screaming for 'a living wage'.

Basic supply & demand.
Spot on.

It's one of the more disturbing aspects of this 'multiculturalism' crime, how the decency and kindness of people has been so manipulated that they're all fighting for, and defending, their own destruction.

Then there's also just the plain hateful characters pushing it.
 

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I've travelled in dozens of non-EU countries and lived for work reasons in 5.

Every time I entered those countries for work my entry and residence visas had to be completely legitimate - never happened to me but several friends were put back on the planes because of minor errors on their visas - an unclear signature or date or whatever. To be clear they had passports and all the correct visas and the means to support themselves just a date or signature was unclear. The counties I lived in were Islamic or Islamic influenced so big signs all over the airports - no alcohol, pork, porn or crucifixes or bibles allowed. Obey our laws - not a discussion. They may have been poor countries but they had control over who entered their countries - we have no border controls and it's destroying Ireland - I do not know a single person who supports this or professes to admire the Irish regime - how did we get here? So quickly ?

In the search for ever lower wages for working people our weak ineffectual gombeen EU puppets have allowed in hundreds of thousands of people who have no business being here and who do not have the means to support themselves - Eastern European workers using FIS, social housing and free healthcare to undermine Irish workers... first for entry level jobs - now all jobs. It's now a complete chaotic disaster...the spoofers and chancers here know it and are taking full-advantage. Three generation migration from Eastern Europe , huge 70 person applications for family re-union from Nigerian phoney asylum seekers, Roma clans arriving in large numbers to be part of the handout bonanza. This is what I am seeing in the area I work in and used to live in - it's not something I read on the Internet. The 'response' from Varadkar - Coveny - Flanagan et al is to put passports in corn-flake packets and clumsily try to prevent a discussion.

For about ten or fifteen years Ireland's small middle-class and even smaller political elite could ignore the open borders - even benefit from them - what with the cheap nannies and home helps and nicely servile waiting staff. The social contract destroying problems they created were confined to poorer areas of Irish cities and towns or low quality employment entry level employment. As the numbers wanting to be part of Ireland's handout boom surge towards a million the problems caused now affect all but the wealthiest - two wages cannot buy a basic home - a million on hospital waiting lists, couples struggle to have a single child - half the housing waiting lists in some local authority areas are illegal immigrants... FFS!. Jobs that were once well paid and largely protected by Irish middle class privilege like accountancy, administration positions, HR even airline pilots are now competing with 'me from East Europe me work real cheap' arrivals.

When those lumbering fossils writing for the Irish Regime print media begin to blink and look around .. you know the things are beginning to stir..
I remember my first time in Dubai airport a couple of years ago, and seeing a sign that said no kissing. And the place is promoted and hailed from the rafters here. Scary, scary stuff.
 

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I remember my first time in Dubai airport a couple of years ago, and seeing a sign that said no kissing. And the place is promoted and hailed from the rafters here. Scary, scary stuff.
Who hails and promotes Dubai? I think most people who know anything about it know that it is an incredibly sordid, corrupt and insanely hypocritical place.
 
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