Commission of Investigation "Crock of $hit" re Mother and Baby Homes says activist Solicitor

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Starry​
Starry - Ref:​
'June Goulding was a midwife in Bessborough in 1951. Her harrowing account of her time there outlines how women were not allowed pain relief during labour or stitches after birth, and when some of them developed abscesses from breast-feeding, they were denied penicillin.

One nun who ran the labour ward in 1951 also forbid any “moaning or screaming” during childbirth. Girls in poverty, who could not afford to make donations to the Sacred Heart order, had to spend another three years after their babies were born cleaning and working on the lands around the Cork city home to ‘make amends’ for their pregnancy.

Such work often included cutting the home’s “immaculate lawns” on their hands and knees — with a pair of scissors.'

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Starry I hate to be the one to break this to you but I am reading her book [The Light in the Window] at the moment.

It is in fact a Novel she wrote which she claims is based around her time in the Bessborough Home.

And therefore of limited historical value.

It is not a straightforward memoir as some seem to think.

Though Poolbeg Press claim it is a 'Memoir' - anyone who reads it will discover otherwise.

This highly readable memoir tells their story, a story of the power of kindness and hope, and of the difference one young woman can make to a great many lives.

Perhaps you should try reading it yourself

- before spouting on any more about it?


 

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Secret Report to Cabinet



SECRET REPORT TO CABINET OF RECOMMENDATIONS BY MINISTER ZAPPONE'S COLLABORATIVE FORUM AND SUB-COMMITTEES



(y) SURVIVORS HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS ARE CONTAINED WITHIN THE REPORT TO GO BEFORE CABINET (y)





Nothing About Us Without Us







"Fintan Dunne shared David Kinsella's post" [SEE BELOW]




'David Kinsella is with Sheila O Byrne and 24 others [SURVIVORS]' ~~~



"MOTHER AND INFANT INSTITUTIONS SURVIVORS I call on the COLLABORATIVE FORM and sub COMMITTEES to put up a link or get SURVIVORS emails of KATHERINE ZAPPONES DEPARTMENT and give survivors a copy of the recomndations that collaborative forum gave to MINISTER Zappone on the 8th of December 2018 it is IMPERATIVE that COLLABORATIVE FORM forward the Full content of RECCOMDATIONS A.S.A.P. for survivors to be sure that no COLLUSION or Hidden Agendas are going on between Government & COLLABORATIVE FORM. this is essential to the values put down


" ** NOTHING WITH US WITHOUT US **


"this value combines with Government & COLLABORATIVE FORM and Sub Committees.


"however also I and other SURVIVORS wish to know where the completed RECCOMDATIONS from the voice & words from the survivors in the Westin Hotel & Silversprings Cork meetings survivors RECCOMDATIONS are in the content of that report by Jim Halley i sincerely hope that the Westin Hotel & Silversprings Hotel wasn't a SURVIVORS GROOMING EXERCISE . I REST MY CASE.




BELOW MEDIA REPRESENTATIVE FOR IRISH FIRST MOTHERS ~ FINTAN DUNNE ~ REPLIES TO DAVID KINSELLA (SURVIVOR OF ST PATRICK'S MOTHER AND BABY HOME ON NAVAN ROAD, RUN BY DAUGHTERS OF CHARITY) ~~~



Fintan Dunne's Reply to David Kinsella:




"Strange indeed that the affected community are not being informed what is in the report to the cabinet about their needs! The Collaborative Forum is not presenting our demands to cabinet. It is just a begging letter looking for crumbs from the table. No wonder we are not allowed to even SEE the begging list before it goes to government. It's a joke.



"The government HAD our demands from the outreach meetings.



"Instead of meeting those demands it set up an elaborate charade to REPLACE the people who came to the outreach. And so a stacked deck forum replaced genuine representative demands with a watered-down begging list. Game's up Government. We're On to You!


"You're right David to suspect Government using their 'outreach' as a grooming exercise. Like a predator, they talked nice and promised lots while setting us up for more abuse. What a sick joke this has become.



SHAM COLLABORATIVE FORUM ~~~


Fintan Dunne resigned from Zappone's sham Collaborative Forum. Paul Redmond Chairperson Coalition of Mother and Baby Home Survivors also resigned.



Nothing About Us Without Us



Nothing About Us Without Us!" (Latin: "Nihil de nobis, sine nobis") is a slogan used to communicate the idea that no policy should be decided by any representative without the full and direct participation of members of the group(s) affected by that policy. This involves national, ethnic, disability-based, or other groups that are often thought to be marginalized from political, social, and economic opportunities.

The saying has its origins in Central European political traditions. It was the political motto that helped establish—and, loosely translated into Latin, provided the name for—Poland's 1505 constitutional legislation, Nihil novi, which first transferred governing authority from the monarch to the parliament. It subsequently became a byword for democratic norms. In this use, it is closely analogous to one of the most familiar slogans of the American Revolutionary War, 'No taxation without representation'.[1] It is also a long-standing principle of Hungarian law and foreign policy,[2] and was a cornerstone of the foreign policy of interwar Poland.[3][4]

The term in its English form came into use in disability activism during the 1990s. James Charlton relates that he first heard the term used in talks by South African disability activists Michael Masutha and William Rowland, who had in turn heard the phrase used by an unnamed East European activist at an earlier international disability rights conference. In 1998, Charlton used the saying as title for a book on disability rights.[5] Disability rights activist David Werner used the same title for another book, also published in 1998.[6]

The saying has since moved from the disability rights movement to other interest group, identity politics, and populist movements.[7][8]



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Viva La Revolution!






T-Rex - Children of The Revolution


"No you won't fool the children of the revolution
No you won't fool the children of the revolution
No you won't fool the children of the revolution
No way"
 

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Fintan Dunne resigned from the Collaborative Forum in protest because the official Minutes didn't record dissenting voices (he said Prof Lundy's views were excised). They had a government appointed Chairperson... I am not going to revisit what happened (Paul Redmond spoke out after he resigned). It was a nice junket for a few of the members who got to attend the Transitional Justice conference at Boston College, USA - Zappone's alma mater. We all know how it works.
 

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I would not put a 5 year old on Keith Finnegan.He is the main shareholder in GalwayBayFm and will not risk offending anyone,any legal firm, any business.He is in the business of advertisement selling and will not let anyone say anything that may result in suing his station.An "Extension " is just a euphemism for " delay" but it just covers his backside in case someone complains.Next we'll hear there is an extension on the Patients Waiting List due to the nurses strikes,there is an extension on the investigation into the Children's Hospital Debacle, there is an "extension" on the Homeless Waiting List Crisis and Building new homes "Extension". It is PR Spinmeisters double speak, periphrasis to the nth degree.
 

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Whyfillaw,

Thank you. Very enlightening. Kieth Finnegan invited secretary of Tuam Home Survivors Network Breeda Murphy on his show when she rang in after listening to his guest Catherine Corless. This was scheduled to happen in sync with NUIG's programme on or about 8th February. Instead Keith spoke to Catherne Corless, who openly hero worships Minister Zappone. Ms Corless nervously coughed her way through the interview about NUIG's programme, which was held on the previous day (7th February). It bears repeating that Ms Corless had nothing to do with the programme at NUIG. She was invited to be on a panel in the afternoon. Ms Corless isn't a confident speaker and throws out incomplete sentences that are meaningless. She has to be well prepped in advance of an interview.

It might be that highly articulate secretary of THSN Ms Murphy had other pressing matters (e.g., urgent family business / other), but nothing was said about her absence on the day.

I am concerned now that Breeda Murphy's absence on Keith Finnegan Show was due to THSN's unambiguous statement of 03.02.19, with regard to Zappone [who knows?], which was written up after Keith's public invitation for Breeda to appear on his show. I sincerely hope that all is well, as I had been so looking forward to hearing more from secretary Breeda.

Read below ~~~


https://www.tuamhomesurvivors.com/

Statement on behalf of the Tuam Home Survivors Network 03/02/2019

To ensure there is no ambiguity on the position of the Tuam Home Survivors Network in relation to recent announcements by Katherine Zappone and the Government, kindly note the following:

The aims and policy of the Tuam Home Survivors Network are

  1. The exhumation of all human remains at the Tuam site.
  1. The creation of a DNA database of all survivors, family members of survivors, family members of those registered as dying in the Tuam home and family members of any persons known to be missing from the Tuam home so as to identify as many as possible of the human remains.
  1. That all aspects of the forensic exhumation of the Tuam mass grave be undertaken by the only legal authority both permitted and obliged to do so, the Coroners Service under the auspices of the Department of Justice.
It is beyond debate that the Minister continues to act ultra vires in this matter. That is our clear position.

The fact that Coroner for North Galway has failed in his duty to convene an Inquest or that successive Attorneys General have failed in their duty to appoint another Coroner, or the fact that the Department of Justice has failed to fulfil its role, does not mean that their powers devolve on the Minister for Children by default.

It is difficult to see what if any role the Minister for Children has in this matter. Any suggestion that she has the power to control the process of bringing closure to the Tuam story is constitutionally and legally absurd and we do not in any way support it.



Activist Solicitor Keven Higgins stated on 'Broadsheet on the Telly' Episode 88 : "I cannot accept the bona fides of Zappone or this government in any way. I do not accept that they have acted at any time in good faith. I don't trust them."
 
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