Commission of Investigation "Crock of $hit" re Mother and Baby Homes says activist Solicitor

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Starry​
Starry - Ref:​
'June Goulding was a midwife in Bessborough in 1951. Her harrowing account of her time there outlines how women were not allowed pain relief during labour or stitches after birth, and when some of them developed abscesses from breast-feeding, they were denied penicillin.

One nun who ran the labour ward in 1951 also forbid any “moaning or screaming” during childbirth. Girls in poverty, who could not afford to make donations to the Sacred Heart order, had to spend another three years after their babies were born cleaning and working on the lands around the Cork city home to ‘make amends’ for their pregnancy.

Such work often included cutting the home’s “immaculate lawns” on their hands and knees — with a pair of scissors.'

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Starry I hate to be the one to break this to you but I am reading her book [The Light in the Window] at the moment.

It is in fact a Novel she wrote which she claims is based around her time in the Bessborough Home.

And therefore of limited historical value.

It is not a straightforward memoir as some seem to think.

Though Poolbeg Press claim it is a 'Memoir' - anyone who reads it will discover otherwise.

This highly readable memoir tells their story, a story of the power of kindness and hope, and of the difference one young woman can make to a great many lives.

Perhaps you should try reading it yourself

- before spouting on any more about it?


 

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Secret Report to Cabinet



SECRET REPORT TO CABINET OF RECOMMENDATIONS BY MINISTER ZAPPONE'S COLLABORATIVE FORUM AND SUB-COMMITTEES



(y) SURVIVORS HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS ARE CONTAINED WITHIN THE REPORT TO GO BEFORE CABINET (y)





Nothing About Us Without Us







"Fintan Dunne shared David Kinsella's post" [SEE BELOW]




'David Kinsella is with Sheila O Byrne and 24 others [SURVIVORS]' ~~~



"MOTHER AND INFANT INSTITUTIONS SURVIVORS I call on the COLLABORATIVE FORM and sub COMMITTEES to put up a link or get SURVIVORS emails of KATHERINE ZAPPONES DEPARTMENT and give survivors a copy of the recomndations that collaborative forum gave to MINISTER Zappone on the 8th of December 2018 it is IMPERATIVE that COLLABORATIVE FORM forward the Full content of RECCOMDATIONS A.S.A.P. for survivors to be sure that no COLLUSION or Hidden Agendas are going on between Government & COLLABORATIVE FORM. this is essential to the values put down


" ** NOTHING WITH US WITHOUT US **


"this value combines with Government & COLLABORATIVE FORM and Sub Committees.


"however also I and other SURVIVORS wish to know where the completed RECCOMDATIONS from the voice & words from the survivors in the Westin Hotel & Silversprings Cork meetings survivors RECCOMDATIONS are in the content of that report by Jim Halley i sincerely hope that the Westin Hotel & Silversprings Hotel wasn't a SURVIVORS GROOMING EXERCISE . I REST MY CASE.




BELOW MEDIA REPRESENTATIVE FOR IRISH FIRST MOTHERS ~ FINTAN DUNNE ~ REPLIES TO DAVID KINSELLA (SURVIVOR OF ST PATRICK'S MOTHER AND BABY HOME ON NAVAN ROAD, RUN BY DAUGHTERS OF CHARITY) ~~~



Fintan Dunne's Reply to David Kinsella:




"Strange indeed that the affected community are not being informed what is in the report to the cabinet about their needs! The Collaborative Forum is not presenting our demands to cabinet. It is just a begging letter looking for crumbs from the table. No wonder we are not allowed to even SEE the begging list before it goes to government. It's a joke.



"The government HAD our demands from the outreach meetings.



"Instead of meeting those demands it set up an elaborate charade to REPLACE the people who came to the outreach. And so a stacked deck forum replaced genuine representative demands with a watered-down begging list. Game's up Government. We're On to You!


"You're right David to suspect Government using their 'outreach' as a grooming exercise. Like a predator, they talked nice and promised lots while setting us up for more abuse. What a sick joke this has become.



SHAM COLLABORATIVE FORUM ~~~


Fintan Dunne resigned from Zappone's sham Collaborative Forum. Paul Redmond Chairperson Coalition of Mother and Baby Home Survivors also resigned.



Nothing About Us Without Us



Nothing About Us Without Us!" (Latin: "Nihil de nobis, sine nobis") is a slogan used to communicate the idea that no policy should be decided by any representative without the full and direct participation of members of the group(s) affected by that policy. This involves national, ethnic, disability-based, or other groups that are often thought to be marginalized from political, social, and economic opportunities.

The saying has its origins in Central European political traditions. It was the political motto that helped establish—and, loosely translated into Latin, provided the name for—Poland's 1505 constitutional legislation, Nihil novi, which first transferred governing authority from the monarch to the parliament. It subsequently became a byword for democratic norms. In this use, it is closely analogous to one of the most familiar slogans of the American Revolutionary War, 'No taxation without representation'.[1] It is also a long-standing principle of Hungarian law and foreign policy,[2] and was a cornerstone of the foreign policy of interwar Poland.[3][4]

The term in its English form came into use in disability activism during the 1990s. James Charlton relates that he first heard the term used in talks by South African disability activists Michael Masutha and William Rowland, who had in turn heard the phrase used by an unnamed East European activist at an earlier international disability rights conference. In 1998, Charlton used the saying as title for a book on disability rights.[5] Disability rights activist David Werner used the same title for another book, also published in 1998.[6]

The saying has since moved from the disability rights movement to other interest group, identity politics, and populist movements.[7][8]



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Viva La Revolution!






T-Rex - Children of The Revolution


"No you won't fool the children of the revolution
No you won't fool the children of the revolution
No you won't fool the children of the revolution
No way"
 

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That is just not the way Government works Starry

Otherwise we could all have access to recommendations before they are decided upon.
 

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Fintan Dunne resigned from the Collaborative Forum in protest because the official Minutes didn't record dissenting voices (he said Prof Lundy's views were excised). They had a government appointed Chairperson... I am not going to revisit what happened (Paul Redmond spoke out after he resigned). It was a nice junket for a few of the members who got to attend the Transitional Justice conference at Boston College, USA - Zappone's alma mater. We all know how it works.
 

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I would not put a 5 year old on Keith Finnegan.He is the main shareholder in GalwayBayFm and will not risk offending anyone,any legal firm, any business.He is in the business of advertisement selling and will not let anyone say anything that may result in suing his station.An "Extension " is just a euphemism for " delay" but it just covers his backside in case someone complains.Next we'll hear there is an extension on the Patients Waiting List due to the nurses strikes,there is an extension on the investigation into the Children's Hospital Debacle, there is an "extension" on the Homeless Waiting List Crisis and Building new homes "Extension". It is PR Spinmeisters double speak, periphrasis to the nth degree.
 

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Whyfillaw,

Thank you. Very enlightening. Kieth Finnegan invited secretary of Tuam Home Survivors Network Breeda Murphy on his show when she rang in after listening to his guest Catherine Corless. This was scheduled to happen in sync with NUIG's programme on or about 8th February. Instead Keith spoke to Catherne Corless, who openly hero worships Minister Zappone. Ms Corless nervously coughed her way through the interview about NUIG's programme, which was held on the previous day (7th February). It bears repeating that Ms Corless had nothing to do with the programme at NUIG. She was invited to be on a panel in the afternoon. Ms Corless isn't a confident speaker and throws out incomplete sentences that are meaningless. She has to be well prepped in advance of an interview.

It might be that highly articulate secretary of THSN Ms Murphy had other pressing matters (e.g., urgent family business / other), but nothing was said about her absence on the day.

I am concerned now that Breeda Murphy's absence on Keith Finnegan Show was due to THSN's unambiguous statement of 03.02.19, with regard to Zappone [who knows?], which was written up after Keith's public invitation for Breeda to appear on his show. I sincerely hope that all is well, as I had been so looking forward to hearing more from secretary Breeda.

Read below ~~~


https://www.tuamhomesurvivors.com/

Statement on behalf of the Tuam Home Survivors Network 03/02/2019

To ensure there is no ambiguity on the position of the Tuam Home Survivors Network in relation to recent announcements by Katherine Zappone and the Government, kindly note the following:

The aims and policy of the Tuam Home Survivors Network are

  1. The exhumation of all human remains at the Tuam site.
  1. The creation of a DNA database of all survivors, family members of survivors, family members of those registered as dying in the Tuam home and family members of any persons known to be missing from the Tuam home so as to identify as many as possible of the human remains.
  1. That all aspects of the forensic exhumation of the Tuam mass grave be undertaken by the only legal authority both permitted and obliged to do so, the Coroners Service under the auspices of the Department of Justice.
It is beyond debate that the Minister continues to act ultra vires in this matter. That is our clear position.

The fact that Coroner for North Galway has failed in his duty to convene an Inquest or that successive Attorneys General have failed in their duty to appoint another Coroner, or the fact that the Department of Justice has failed to fulfil its role, does not mean that their powers devolve on the Minister for Children by default.

It is difficult to see what if any role the Minister for Children has in this matter. Any suggestion that she has the power to control the process of bringing closure to the Tuam story is constitutionally and legally absurd and we do not in any way support it.



Activist Solicitor Keven Higgins stated on 'Broadsheet on the Telly' Episode 88 : "I cannot accept the bona fides of Zappone or this government in any way. I do not accept that they have acted at any time in good faith. I don't trust them."
 

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Disgraced former US cardinal Theodore McCarrick defrocked over sex abuse allegations

The first Roman Catholic prelate in nearly 100 years to lose the title of cardinal



February 16 2019 10:47 AM



By Philip Pullella



Disgraced former US Cardinal Theodore McCarrick has been expelled from the Roman Catholic priesthood following allegations against him, including sexual abuse of minors, the Vatican said on Saturday.

McCarrick, who in July became the first Roman Catholic prelate in nearly 100 years to lose the title of cardinal, has now become the highest profile church figure to be dismissed from the priesthood in modern times.



Feb. 16, 2019


By Matthew Vann and Linda Givetash


"The canonical investigation found that he was guilty of "sins against the Sixth Commandment with minors and with adults, with the aggravating factor of the abuse of power." He was also found guilty of "solicitation" during confession.



"The crime of solicitation refers to when a priest uses the pretext of the sacrament of confession to commit an immoral act with a penitent. One of men who has claimed that McCarrick abused him when he was a boy said McCarrick, then a priest, touched his genitals during confession.



Disgraced former US cardinal Theodore McCarrick expelled over sexual abuse



By James Morris


"The Vatican said the removal of Mr McCarrick, 88, is a "very important signal" to the Church hierarchy that no one is "above the law".

"McCarrick, who was the archbishop of Washington DC between 2001 and 2006, was expelled on Saturday after being found guilty of sexual crimes against minors and adults.

"As the church continues to struggle with a decades-long sexual abuse crisis, Archbishop Charles Scicluna said the decision showed the church is taking action.



"Mr McCarrick's sexual misconduct with adult seminarians was an open secret in the US Church, with allegations going back 50 years.
 

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For the Record:
Testo in lingua italiana

In data 11 gennaio 2019, il Congresso della Congregazione per la Dottrina della Fede ha emanato il decreto conclusivo del processo penale a carico di Theodore Edgar McCarrick, Arcivescovo emerito di Washington, D.C., con il quale l’accusato è stato dichiarato colpevole dei seguenti delitti perpetrati da chierico: sollecitazione in Confessione e violazioni del Sesto Comandamento del Decalogo con minori e adulti, con l’aggravante dell’abuso di potere, pertanto gli è stata imposta la pena della dimissione dallo stato clericale. Il 13 febbraio 2019 la Sessione Ordinaria (Feria IV) della Congregazione per la Dottrina della Fede ha esaminato gli argomenti presentati nel ricorso del ricorrente e ha deciso di confermare il decreto del Congresso. Questa decisione è stata notificata a Theodore McCarrick in data 15 febbraio 2019. Il Santo Padre ha riconosciuto la natura definitiva, a norma di legge, di questa decisione, la quale rende il caso res iudicata, cioè non soggetta ad ulteriore ricorso.

[00272-IT.01] [Testo originale: Italiano]

Traduzione in lingua inglese

On 11 January 2019, the Congresso of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, at the conclusion of a penal process, issued a decree finding Theodore Edgar McCarrick, archbishop emeritus of Washington, D.C., guilty of the following delicts while a cleric: solicitation in the Sacrament of Confession, and sins against the Sixth Commandment with minors and with adults, with the aggravating factor of the abuse of power. The Congresso imposed on him the penalty of dismissal from the clerical state. On 13 February 2019, the Ordinary Session (Feria IV) of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith considered the recourse he presented against this decision. Having examined the arguments in the recourse, the Ordinary Session confirmed the decree of the Congresso. This decision was notified to Theodore McCarrick on 15 February 2019. The Holy Father has recognized the definitive nature of this decision made in accord with law, rendering it a res iudicata (i.e., admitting of no further recourse).

[00272-EN.01] [Original text: Italian]
 

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Marie Collins (former adviser to Pope Francis) ~~~


"the Vatican's promise of 'zero tolerance' toward the abuse of minors should be put into canon law"

Updated / Sunday, 17 Feb 2019 22:16


"Clerical abuse survivor and former adviser to Pope Francis, Marie Collins, has said the defrocking of former cardinal Theodore McCarrick is "a step in the right direction", but very late considering his behaviour had been known about for many years.

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"Speaking on RTÉ's This Week programme ahead of a Vatican summit on child sexual abuse this week, Ms Collins added that the Vatican's promise of 'zero tolerance' toward the abuse of minors should be put into canon law.



The Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests (SNAP) ~

"It [SNAP] highlights the case of Monsignor Joseph Punderson, the third highest ranking official at the Vatican's Supreme Court who has lived in Rome for the past 26 years.

"Last week the 70-year-old's New Jersey diocese announced he had been removed from ministry after being "credibly accused of the sexual abuse of a minor." It did not specify the date of this allegation.

"Responding to this, Ms Collins said this illustrated the obstacles that the pontifical commission she resigned from was up against, when it strove in vain to have the Vatican bureaucracy implement its proposed tribunal for trying bishops who concealed clerical child sexual abuse.

....

"Last month she [Ms Collins] recalled he [POPE FRANCIS] had told the Vatican media corps that he tried to explain to her that he [POPE FRANCIS] was using more appropriate means instead to hold guilty bishops accountable.
 

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'Action needed from key Vatican meeting on child abuse from Thursday next for 3 days with Pope Francis in attendance'

'Bishops must formally commit to implementing zero tolerance of offenders'




By Marie Collins [former adviser to Pope Francis]


It's' belated recognition that the sexual abuse of children by clergy is a global issue' ~




"He [THE POPE] has on a number of occasions promised that this is the way clerical sexual abuse of minors will be treated in future. At the moment it is still only a promise; it needs to become a reality and be secured by inclusion in church law.

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"Canon law is universal, Catholic doctrine is universal, safeguarding children should be universal. Every child is entitled to the same level of protection no matter what country is their home. Their safety must not be a lottery dependent on their geographical location in the world.

"True safeguarding in the church can only be achieved when those in leadership suffer severe consequences if they fail to protect the vulnerable. For this reason strong accountability measures must accompany any safeguarding policy.

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"There should also be a commitment that where there is a guilty finding it will be made public along with the sanction imposed. Transparency is needed; justice must be seen to be done. Trust has been lost; saying it is happening behind closed doors is not enough.
 

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Regarding Minister Katherine Zannone's SHAM Collaborative Forum…."No more secrets, no more secrets, no more secrets, everything in the open from now on, everything on the record from now, everyone's behaviour on the record from now on"


Cork Institute of Technology INVESTIGATES: Mother & Baby Homes and Adoption Practices in Ireland


Venue: Rory Gallagher Theatre



On 13 February 2019, there was a panel discussion which focused on Mother and Baby Homes/Adoption practices.

Panelists were journalist Conall Ó Fátharta, Prof. Eoin O’Sullivan, Mike Milotte, Liam O’Mahony, Mary Slattery, and COLLABORATIVE FORUM MEMBER MS TERRI HARRISON



'Survivors Put Hard Questions to 'Baby Homes' Panel'






Irish First Mothers
Published on Feb 18, 2019
Anna Corrigan of Tuam Babies Family Group and Sheila O'Byrne who is a survivor of St. Patrick's Navan Road put hard facts and questions to the panel at CIT Cork. This Q & A session followed panel presentations on Mother and Baby Homes and Adoption Practices in Ireland.

STARRY:

Well Done to both Anna Corrigan and Sheila O'Bryne. I am proud of you!



Irish First Mother Sheila O'Byrne's question to Ms Terri Harrison, a member of Minister Zappone's SHAM Collaborative Forum:


Sheila O'Byrne:
"Why do members of Collaborative Forum have to sign a confidentiality agreement? Surely on the grounds of transparency alone there should be no confidential agreement. "



STARRY:

Ms Terri Harrison answered with a load of BULLSH1T. Her reply was laughable. She answered that the confidentiality agreement was between themselves.


Someone called out to Ms Terri Harrison ~~~


👍 "The confidentiality Agreement is not between yourselves, it prevents you from telling me what it is. It prevents you from telling her (Ms Sheila O'Byrne)."

👍 "No more secrets, no more secrets, no more secrets, everything in the open from now on, everything on the record from now, everyone's behaviour on the record from now on"




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INTRODUCTION

This state throughout the twentieth century locked up a staggering number of its citizens within institutions run by religious orders. These institutions were profit-making, privately owned, and publicly funded. The word ‘internment’ is something we associate with the conflict in the North of Ireland where between 1971 and 1975 a total number of 1981 people were interned without trial and recourse to a justice system that you would expect in any normal ‘civilised’ society.

Yet, at any moment between 1926 and 1951 there was at least 31,000 people interned south of the border in an interlocking system of institutions consisting of Industrial Schools, Magdalene Laundries, Mother and Baby Homes and Mental Institutions. This is according to Prof. Eoin O’Sullivan and Ian O’Donnell’s book, Coercive Confinement in Ireland. A total of 1% of the Irish population was interned within this state. By 1970, the system had reduced to 20,000 people. The amount of people who were incarcerated (and hadn’t committed any crime) was far greater than those who had been incarcerated through the judicial system. In terms of locking people up – Ireland, throughout most of the twentieth century, was like any totalitarian state.

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The Ryan and McAleese Reports have all revealed how the state and church colluded to lock up women and children within this state. We now have a Commission of Investigation into Mother and Baby Homes as well as an investigation into adoption malpractices. The report from this investigation was originally due to be published in 2018 but has now been postponed, for a second time, until February 2020.


- Brian McMahon, Department of Applied Social Studies, CIT School of Humanities.
 

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'I am truly sorry' - Archbishop Eamon Martin offers message to survivors of abuse ahead of Vatican meeting


15:27 Tuesday 19th of February 2019











Ahead of his departure for this week’s special meeting in the Vatican on the protection of minors in the Catholic Church, the Derry-born Primate of All-Ireland, Archbishop Eamon Martin, has offered a message to survivors and victims of abuse.

As part of his preparations for the Vatican meeting, Archbishop Martin has engaged in numerous face to face consultations and discussions with survivors of abuse across the four provinces of Ireland. He has also received feedback in writing from survivors and from the lay faithful.


Speaking ahead of his trip to Rome, Archbishop Martin (pictured) said:

"As I prepare to journey to Rome for the meeting with Pope Francis about safeguarding, I want to assure you that you are uppermost in my thoughts. In recent weeks I have met with some of you and heard about how you were hurt and violated, and about how your young lives were turned into a nightmare by people who betrayed the sacred trust that you and your families had placed in them.

"I am truly sorry for what was done to you.

"I’ve learned also about how abuse devastated your confidence in yourself and others, your relationships, your family, and in some cases your spiritual, emotional, mental and physical well-being. Abuse broke your heart and spirit and sometimes you couldn’t tell anyone for years. And then - when all you wanted was to be believed and supported by the Church, and your abuser to be stopped from harming others - there were too many failures to listen, to understand, and to do what was right and just.

"I am truly sorry for these failures.
 
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